Israeli and Zionist influence in the USA is a purposeful choice of the American government. It allows the American government to circumvent many domestic and international laws by allowing Israeli firms to do the spying and dirty work for them. Israel is essentially a rogue state that is entirely controlled by the American intelligence apparatus (and therefore, American capital). This has created a feedback loop of constantly reinforcing settler colonialism and American economic extraction of the Middle East. If America withdrew support to Israel, this feedback loop would cease and Israel would be greatly diminished or completely collapse.

Saying Israel controls America is simply wrong, stop saying this. I will remove your post. ✌️

edit: altered title for clarification and to avoid nonsensical semantic arguments

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[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

AIPAC is an American political organization. You have yet to explain why it wouldn't be in the interest of the US ruling class to bankroll Israel, which deindustrializes Arab countries and brings the gilf monarchies to heel at a time when they seem eager to find less dangerous options. Did Hitler hypnotize the Americans as well? What about the Rhodesians?

These bribery & blackmail arguments are always used to compensate for the small scale of the Jewish bourgeoisie relative to the rest of the first world bourgeoisie. The premise is that there is a functioning US political system not composed of bribery, blackmail, insider trading, and constant manipulation as a tool of the bourgeoisie. There isn't. Getting rid of AIPAC would not get rid of support for Israel or the lucrative reasons why the support exists.

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago

the gilf monarchies

I don't mean to kinkshame, but I just don't see King Salman that way...

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why does AIPAC exist then? Why do they lobby so much money to get their hand-picked zionists into positions of power? They spent millions of dollars to overthrow anti-zionist seats in congress and the house. If their political organization didn't matter then why are they spending so much money into it?

If I knew I already had the winning numbers to a lottery ticket, why would I spend even more of my money on lottery tickets?

"israel" would have faced a similar fall as apartheid South Africa after this genocide if the foreign lobbying from the zionist entity did not bug, blackmail, and bribe politicians across the globe.

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

For the same reason why any conservative PAC exists. Do you think that Taiwanese and Ukrainian politicians are just bribing everyone, and there is no benefit to the US ruling class from supporting these military occupations? What about the Philippines lol? It's not just direct colonial powers, a regional subimperialist state that oppresses all the other states and its internal populations retivitalizes the colonial extraction system and destroys unwanted means of production.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The era of colonization has ended though. The imperialists could have just as easily influenced a Palestinian state, like they have done with the gulf states and Ukraine, Taiwan, and the Phillipines to bow to the empire. Notice how the imperialists didn't import an entire ethnic group into those countries, they just imported their ideologies.

They already did it with the Palestinian Authority, any country that shows the slightest pushback against the imperialists gets blown to pieces or overthrown. See Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria.

Why prop up a colonial entity when we've moved past that stage of imperialism? The masses became "woke" to colonialism post-WWII and most imperialist countries instead have a way to make their evils less transparent in their ways of controlling another country's resources. Color revolutions, "soft-power" via predatory IMF loans with clauses demanding for privatization of infrastructure are ways to name a few.

Why go through all this effort manufacturing fake historical justifications for why this type of colonization is good, when they already have the gulf states and the Palestinian Authority as loyal servants to the empire?

Edit: even the Xinhua Institute says pre-WW2 colonization is dead. Enough with the vibes-based analysis.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The era of colonization has ended though.

This is literally the ACP reactionary line.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

How? Do you think any country will be able to invade another country and settle their own citizens after enslaving or genociding the original inhabitants? Correct me if I'm wrong but it doesn't happen anymore. It's much easier to have plausible deniability on the world stage if your colony is not a direct extension of your own citizens.

Apparently the Xinhua Institute's Colonization of the Mind was actually the ACP's tricknology infecting China.

In the wake of WWII, national liberation movements swept across the globe, numerous independent nation-states sprang up like bamboo shoots after the rain, the global colonial system established by European powers crumbled, and the world entered the post-colonial era. As the new global hegemon, the United States discovered that, faced with numerous "awakened" nationalist nation-states, relying solely on "hard power" in the forms of political domination, economic control, military deterrence, among others, could not establish or sustain a lasting and extensive colonial rule; instead, employing "soft power" such as culture and values would enable it to reap higher colonial rewards at lower costs.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is happening right now in Israel....

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 day ago

Because the foreign lobby has made them an exception to the rule...