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I'm not talking about personal responsibility as in "don't smoke cigarettes". I'm talking about "ultra-processed foods are the mono-cause for all human disease".
These people don't believe in health-risks. They believe that everyone who ever gets sick could have chosen not to.
Ironic how fast "personal responsibility" becomes "you owe your body to the State". But even if we ignore the totalitarianism of your system, it's still wrong.
Smokers and the Obese incur fewer lifetime health costs than joggers. So by your reasoning, it's suddenly patriotic and prosocial to smoke, be a couch potato, and eat potato chips. People who work out are selfish and hate America.
Don’t smoke cigarettes is cool if you didn’t grow up in a world where they were handing you cigarettes when you were seven years old.
I quit heroin. Fucking heroin.
Do you know what I can’t quit? Smoking.
I was given my first cigarette when I was five years old. I was smoking a pack a day by the ripe old age of 12.
I was addicted enough that I went out and cut grass entirely to buy cigarettes. My brother and I robbed a delivery truck and took several boxes of camels. I was 13 when we did that.
Research and education behind smoking cessation, benefits of exercise, and cardiac drug advances was the worse thing to happen to pension plans and social security. Work, pay taxes, then die is the Project 2025 plan.
Source for smokers and the obese incurring fewer lifetime health costs than joggers?
My guess it that if you kick the curb by 62 you are cheaper if you live to 90
Do you have a source for the joggers bit?
No lol, they made it up on the spot
Society is not the state. Society are your fellow human beings.
I was also never positioning this in terms of costs.
You seem to be pretty good at misrepresenting arguments so I’m just gonna stop replying now since it is clear you will not engage in good faith.