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Sounds like propaganda tbh
That didn't work out too well for the French monarchy, did it?
It's more accurate to say that the average person doesn't desire a power structure but merely tolerates it so long as it provides them with some benefit. The moment those structures become oppressive, they get violently torn down.
Its been pretty oppressive for a while now - c'mon America, wake up...
Lol, it's pseudoscientific propaganda. Don't pretend Wilson isn't controversial
Also, I ain't your pal, buddy!
Edit: I made this for you https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49396386
In what world do people who have more power have it based on biology? You think trump is some biological specimen to get into power? Or is it the societal structure we created that allowed him to rise to power?
The hierarchical structure of humans is some literal right winger shit.
Not accusing you of anything, just find it funny how "look at it from a purely biological position" is exactly the line transphobes use
Christ. I forgot that it's impossible to speak about science online. I didn't once insinuate that line of thinking.
Fuck this thread. I'm deleting it.
Eh? I literally said I wasnt accusing you of anything and that I just found it funny
I know. But this just leads to a dog pile on Lemmy. It already started. It's impossible to discuss human evolutionary biology without emotions getting involved for exactly the reason you stated.
Because bad faith actors co-opted the language for their subverted messaging, it's just a wash.
Hm no, the problem is much more at the roots of science than you think. Most of biology is based on humans' biased assumptions and expectations. For example, only when queer theory was developed did biologists really grasp how much deviant the animal kingdom in regards to sex, gender and sexuality actually is.
Just think how many layers deep this is: humans exist -> develop social structures -> develop social constructs that feel essential -> try to describe their own biology through the lense of all the prior layers -> develop awareness about some social constructs -> revisit their own biology but still with a lot of biases
What you express by saying that it isn't possible anymore to just speak about biology is imo rather an expression of denying certain advancements we've made. Our ideas and models of biology a few decades ago may have been simpler, but not more true. We've just realized to some extend how complex biology is and how our prior models have made many poor assumptions.
EO Wilson is having his own concepts and biases of human societies and projects them onto this pseudoscientific narrative. He is obviously not aware of his own position in society and how it shapes his assumptions.
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This is absolute propaganda. Early human societies didn't work like that. Hunter-gatherers didn't work like that.
This is yet another "brutal selfish liberalism is hUmAn nAtUrE!!1!1!!1!" shit that was disproven in 1800s.