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doi: 10.1037//0021-843x.105.3.440

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[–] underscores@lemmy.dbzer0.com 90 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I really don't like the idea of citing this study. It's always this same one from the 90s, and if it were acurate I expect the results would have been reproduced more. It's also not clear that the results indicate what the paper says. There's other reasons than sexual arousal that could explain the results. It could be they're imagining the scenario and are axious or disgusted by it. There's this paper that indicates homophobia is usually caused by fear or hate.

I don't like the idea of putting the blame for homophobia on closeted queer people. It's seems extremely likely to me that most homophobic people are straight, since most people are straight. Also we should respect other people's own identification instead of trying to force labels on people, even if they're bigots.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I always felt like that study from the 90s is missing part of the picture. Like, it's less 'closeted gay people' that are the problem, and it's more the people who are closeted because it was beaten into them at a young age that being gay means they deserve the worst of the worst.

I think you're spot on with fear being the root cause, and we really have done a good job at making people afraid of their own sexuality.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah I prefer to think of it as that the most violent enforcers of homophobia are often queer. Gay people operate the conversion camps, straight people send their kids to them at the behest of a straight preacher. The straight people in this scenario have other things on their mind, homophobia isn't their primary concern, but it is one of their concerns.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago

Eh, yes and no. I wouldn't say that they're operating the camps, but kapos are an unfortunate reality.

I'd agree that homophobia isn't the primary concern for most straight people, but with the caveat that it is the primary concern for the families who are worried enough to enter the conversion camp pipeline. I'd also argue that homophobia was a primary method of control via fear by specifically the preachers in the camp pipeline, though that stick is getting worn out and they're starting to swap to transphobia for fresh fear. There are many roads to hell though, so you're right about it not being their only concern.

[–] Sidhean@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I was hoping someone else articulated this better than me. When I read OP's screenshot, I heard "Your dick got hard when we showed you sex. What are you, gay? You're gay, aren't you?" Which doesn't really follow. Thats just bullying, I think. The scientists were bullying the homophobes lmao.

And, like, they're probably sometimes correct. I conject homophobia is a mask worn by homos to blend in around homophobes, and then the paper you linked hits me with

These findings confirm the importance of considering the variability in impulsive processes to understand why some (but not all) men high in homophobia have homosexual interest.

and wow, this really does confirm my bias! Thank you for sharing