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But why vivaldi of all things?
People are too wussy to use waterfox or at least firefox. Just gotta have a chrome variant I guess
Everything now, except for FireFox, is a WebKit/Chrome variant.
That is mostly but not entirely true, Firefox has a few variants of its own, alternatives do exist.
I did some research into the topic not long ago, you basically want to choose an engine and from that a browser
Gecko basd (Firefox)
Goanna based (Fork of Gecko)
Servo based (very early in development/not for daily use)
Ladybird: fully independent engine and browser
Also waterfox. Can't forget about waterfox. That said, I'm daily driving Zen at this point and am extremely happy with it
Also for completion of the taxonomical reference above, Safari GNOME Web and Konqueror use the actual WebKit rendering engine that branched from KDE Plasma in 2001.
Chrome, Edge, and all the Chromium-based browsers use “Blink,” which branched from the WebKit project in 2013 and evolved separately. It’s different enough now to be considered distinct (developers supporting these browsers need no reminder) but a portion of the original properties are still shared.
Most of the time when people say “webkit” they’re referring to Google’s Blink engine, but the original WebKit project is still around and lives on in a handful of evergreen browsers that bear mention.
Thanks for compiling this so I can reference it later if Firefox ever becomes an issue
Should've picked Brave instead it at least gives you a better user experience.
If you're wondering bout the crypto stuff, all that can be turned off in under 1 minute in the settings. Turned it off years ago and forgot about it until someone once brought that up in a conversation.
I also use other Browsers like Floorp, Waterfox, Chrome, Librewolf etc.
What you cannot turn off are the homophobic views of Brendan Eich, Braves CEO and co-founder.
Nor their history with intercepting/inserting affiliate links. Sure, that was for a crypto site, but nothing suggests that it can't happen with other things.
Holy shit... when the Browser itself becomes the Man-in-the-Middle attack
I wasn't using Brave at that time, and I probably won't even care if they did that with me, my experience with the browser has been exceptional and I wouldn't mind letting them get affiliates when 100% of my purchases don't have any affiliate links anyway, I'm not losing anything and they're getting money too.
But yeah they shouldn't have done the replacing part, if someone wanted to support someone's affiliate programme and Brave automatically replaced their affiliate link it would of course make people angry.
Though that happened years ago and probably wouldn't happen today, I hope.
That reminds of the Honey extension scam but they did the same thing with affiliate cookies.
So you're just going to ignore the homophobic part, cool
True that, but I don't have any control over whose the CEO of a product I use, 99% of CEOs would literally sell their children for more money if they could
Yeah you sure do, it's called "don't use their product"
Companies don't stay in existince with no customers/users.
People need to learn to separate the art from the artist. I don't care what the CEO thinks politically I have a thousand more things to worry about.
Don't use Brave https://www.spacebar.news/stop-using-brave-browser/
Sorry you got downvoted. Once again people are downvoting positive posts about Brave blindly.
It's no coincidence that the only open source browser that actually blocks ads is the one that gets downvoted all the time. Meanwhile people are dead silent when someone recommends a fully closed source chrome alternative that makes money from search tracking. 🤔
Gnome web blocks ads, and getting an adblocking extension on Firefox forks is super easy
What browser are you talking about here?
Vivaldi
But this whole discussion was started by a highly upvoted comment that says: "But why vivaldi of all things?", followed by the poster explaining in further detail why they don't think it's a good choice. That's "dead silent"?
The votes, not the replies. There's a bunch of silent lurkers on here who just browse for comments on brave to downvote them.
Lol I can't see downvotes on the client I'm using (Sync). Let them be angry, Funnily enough I've seen people on r/browsers compile full on Indexes on why you shouldn't use Brave and include shit like ☝️🤓 This one time Brave trolled Firefox by running an advertisment* in it. Like goddamn bro I'm not gonna take you seriously if you include shit like that 🤣
What’s wrong with Vivaldi?
further contribution to the google chrome hegemony
My job basically requires that I use Chrome (I work for a SaaS company whose product’s advance features only work on Chromium). Vivaldi has, at least so far, performed the best, offered the most customization that suited my needs, and isn’t Chrome/Edge. I liked Arc as well, but it has the same issues that Vivaldi has.
I don’t like Brave due to its push of AI/crypto, and Opera doesn’t really work with some of our internal apps.
As a decades long Firefox user it sucks, but I don’t have much of a choice when it comes to work. It’s tough finding alternatives built on Chromium that accomplish everything I need without there being some major caveat.
Ok. Anything else?
sure. i also dislike that it's a closed source product created by a private company that could rug pull all the users to turn a quick buck at any time. they haven't in the last 10 years, and come from a legacy of a company that was very respectful of their customers (opera) but you could also argue the legacy of opera being bought by a spyware company was the last rugpull and that vivaldi will inevitably do the same. but that's a more abstract complaint
Dude. The day any other browser comes close to the functionality of Vivaldi, I'll switch. But from my experience with Firefox and Brave, that's far in the future.
what functionality do other browsers lack? i really mean it. my question is "why vivaldi of all things" and i still don't think i know
I was really hoping for an answer. But it looks like Vivaldi is the best browser, because it has mouse gestures like no other.
Mouse gestures. For me, they are a must, I can't browse without them.
Its UI and UX are very nice, I loved it while I used it, however, Im now using waterfox for privact reasons.