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Fuck anyone who hunts bears.
There is a natural order to prey and predators.
If you're going to hunt a predator, and it's not for sanctioned wildlife management culls, get a Bowie knife and have at it. Otherwise, I hope you suffer a horrible death.
I'm not anti-hunting, at all. Hunting is easily the most humane way to eat meat. But hunting predators is a sport, not subsistence.
You can pretty much guarantee that anyone who hunts predators for sport, is a gigantic asshole and you should not feel bad about wishing them harm. I would take that statement even further, but I don't want the mods to remove this comment.
To be clear, no one likes bear meat, they're opportunistic scavengers. These bears were hunted for sport most likely, but the hunters were slightly better than your average bear hunting asshole, and at least didn't waste the meat. Most likely because it would be a wasted kill, and illegal.
I wish gun owners would advocate more for hunting invasive species, like in the US there's too many feral hogs and nutria.
They do. Texas allows ariel hunting of hogs, there's no season, and no tag limit. I know lots of other areas have similar approaches of differentiating hunting laws and seasons when it comes to invasive species.
All the hunters I've known, have been an outdoor guys and nature conservationists, but also conservative usually.
No tag limit? That's too far. I think the limit should be..say...30 to 50 feral hogs.
You should come and see how many and how invasive they really are.
Psst…he was making reference to a meme (see other reply for screenshot).
I think they still have legal requirements about wanton waste, or at least best effort.
The no tag limit makes sense though, as they're an incredibly invasive species and the aspirational goal is removal.
None of this should be considered legal advice, I could be mistaken on the regulations. You should check them out yourself to make sure I'm not full of shit, or confused.
Great podcast episode on it from Reply All
tagging in case you didn’t catch the reference
@circuscritic@lemmy.ca @Gerudo@lemm.ee
Seems like not everybody got the reference.
We need to do a complete extermination of the feral hog population, not only should it be no tag limit there should be a bounty on them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive
The difference is that feral hogs are just that feral. They aint native and are an active harm to the environment, while the incentives may be perverse they would also be decently more effective than what we have right now.
The point of “perverse incentives” is that the plan doesn’t create a solution at all and isn’t remotely effective because it can can lead to things like some dude catching young females and throwing them in an enclosure with a male, letting them go once they’re pregnant, actively kill off the produced males, and repeat with the females.
If you tell a city to bring in dead rats for a reward, someone is going to start breeding rats in his basement.
Edit:
To make it clear, I’m for no tag limit, but I worry about rewards. Let the sadists go wild with blood. :p Not that I think hunters are sadists, it just takes a different kind of person to massacre on a scale like that.
Fair enough but such systems have worked in the past, the Aussies put a bounty on emu after the Emu war which worked out quite fine. Maybe mandate that that blood samples and location of kill must be turned in as well that way the department of fish and wild life can do some checking on things. I feel the bounty system could be implemented pretty easily, actually just make it so only hunters with a specific license can get the bounties with regular property check ups.
Bit harder to breed emus than pigs.
I got it, even if nobody else did.
And how is a mermaid supposed to do that?
You drop the mermaids onto the hogs from the air; Surf 'n Turf.
Most gun owners that I know are not hunters. I'd like to change their perspectives and get them outdoors.
The California Grizzly was hunted to extinction for a number of reasons, but among them was that it was said to be delicious. Black bears aren’t really meat scavengers - they eat a lot of insects, berries, and some foliage. Actually pretty similar to the diet of a chicken. Tuna eat more meat than bears.
I thought this disease sounded familiar. Trichinosis - Wikipedia
While the most common vector in the U.S. is now bear meat, that wasn’t always the case. The most common human infection vector used to be undercooked pork!
Many older folks won’t touch pork unless it’s well done, because apparently these parasites make your muscles feel like they’re on fire.
A history teacher (many years ago) even told my class that trichnosis was the reason Jewish people don’t eat pork. (A quick internet search throws water on that. Doesn’t rule it out, but it’s not guaranteed to be correct, either.)
While I agree that hunting apex predators (or, really, any sport hunting) is kind of dumb, I do want to note that pigs famously eat slop and bathe in their own shit and bacon is delicious. Which is to say, we probably can’t assume taste based on diet/lifestyle
Yep, my grandmother went through the Great Depression and didn't eat pork unless it was well done. For example, bacon had to be crispy.
Turns out trichinosis can kill children, and not silently in their sleep.
These days, commercial pork is highly regulated and safer to the point you only have to be cautious with smaller ranches.
Unpasteurized milk has a similar story, but my grandmother swore drinking that as a child was why she never had osteoporosis.
Me? It's 2024, most food lacks nutritional value, so I cook everything to temp and take supplements
Ironically, hunting deer is now necessary here in Indiana because people hunted all the bears and wolves to extinction and now the deer population explodes and they all starve to death if hunters don't keep the population in check.
There is a certain case I advocate bear hunting: bears that gain a proclivity for human environments or for humans as prey. It's rare, though, and can (and should) be handled by wildlife management personnel whenever reasonable.
Yes, I specifically excluded sanctioned/lawful wildlife management practices.
Unfortunately you'll see this a lot with polar bears, which is one of the reasons why proper waste management is so critical in Arctic towns/villages.
Poor waste management practices are capable of attracting more than just polar bears, but they are the most dangerous, for a host of reasons.