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[-] witty_username@feddit.nl 44 points 4 days ago

Molecular biologist.
It's mostly a matter of what we don't know. Paleontological evidence certainly shows that horseshoe crabs didn't change much in their appearance. However, we just don't know to what extent other aspects of their biology are as conserved. Therefore, it is just unscientific to say that horseshoe crabs are 'living fossils' or that they didn't evolve for millions of years. They may have, they may not have

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 days ago

I came to mention the same. Static phenotype ≠ static genotype.

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago
[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Much obliged ! I was just thinking these strings of letters kinda looked like words

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Honestly, I'm pretty sure they post any old brain rot here and then have an AI fabricate supporting articles online just to mess with us...

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

Sorry! We're both biologists, we get nerdy.

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

No I love it - that's why we're here.

I learned something today and hope to gently explain it to my degenerating/conservative father (but let's not get into that kettle of fustercluck!)

[-] witty_username@feddit.nl 5 points 3 days ago

Makes me wonder, would epigenetic speciation be possible?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I would have to assume there's some ecological pressure they're either experiencing or shielded from. If they're under environmental pressure, they are either exceptionally developed to endure environmental changes or they're adapting to the environment in ways that don't reflect in their physiology. If they've just found a niche biome where the ecological conditions are fairly static, and they're well suited to the environment, what changes would you see other than some generic genetic drift?

[-] kbal@fedia.io 7 points 4 days ago

It makes sense. I just wasn't sure how likely it would be for species to evolve in significant ways over a long time without obvious changes to the shape of their fossils. Difficult to spot evolution happens a lot, apparently:

Cryptic, or sibling, species are discrete species that are difficult, or sometimes impossible, to distinguish morphologically and thus have been incorrectly classified as a single taxon. Cryptic species are found from the poles to the Equator and in all major terrestrial and aquatic taxonomic groups [2, 3]. For example, a recent meta-analysis yielded 2,207 articles reporting cryptic species in all metazoan phyla and classes, including 996 new species in insects, 267 in mammals, 151 in fishes and 94 in birds [2].

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Yeah exactly. I’m not a biologist but I am aware that horseshoe crabs are harvested for their blood and its unique properties. How much evolution (in the last 450MY) have they undergone in terms of their immune system and other microbiological processes? We may never know but I think it’s quite a stretch to assume “none!”

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