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Everybody calm down. There's a reason that the 2Aers won't get mad about this.
This is as racist of a dog whistle as you can get. Lots of people are aware "stop and frisk" really means "stop and frisk minorities and plant drugs and weapons when you can."
So it's perfectly in line with the "law and order" bullshit. Don't expect a lot of anger about these comments. To the shitheads, these comments are directed at the "right" people. Cops wouldn't stop and frisk them, they think, because cops know that they're a law abiding citizen by the color of their skin.
Racists gonna fuckin racist, man. First gun control we ever got in the USA was because white people got freaked out by black people with guns.
You might be able to chip a few away by calling him a "gun grabber." They probably won't vote for Harris, but they won't vote for Trump either. They might just sit it out.
Chip a few away here and a few away there... that might be all that's needed.
Gun Grabbin' Donnie
That's G... r... a... b... b... i... n... Apostrophe
Grab em by the pistols
When you’re a cop they let you do it.
Grab 'em by the gun. You can do anything.
Grab 'em by the Glock.
Give them the ol' Glock twist!
Fascists don't win on facts and logic, they win on affect.
He says one thing about guns, but means something about hurting minorities. His electorate only cares about the second part. Literally anything you could argue about the first part is worse than useless, because through sheer power of denial they'll revert to affect on this well-practiced talking point (”Trump love guns, Trump hate [insert slur here], Trump just like me"). You can't win on this battlefield, no matter how objectively and obviously right you are.
That's why "Trump is weird" is so unbelievably more effective than "Trump is a rapist", "Trump is a fascist", "Trump is a criminal" or "Trump is a traitor". Pointing out his weirdness directly undermines his affect. "We're not going back" calls back to the constant feeling of dread of his presidency. Ironically when dealing with humans, but especially when dealing with fascists, affect and core values are more important and less malleable than facts.
I literally just learned the word affect like... 4 hours ago, what the fuck?
That's the Baader Meinhof Phenomenon (AKA the Frequency Illusion) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_illusion
This is something I learned about decades ago, but never really experienced. Now I see it all the time and it's fucking weird. The simulation is breaking down
If we in a simulation, I hope that shit breaks all the way down.
They clearly forgot to install the Livin' Large and Makin' Magic expansions. Can we get an afterlife and some damn wizards up in here?
This is actually possible. There's a "don't tread on me" type that has been using their yard as a political billboard for years and i just recently noticed that while they're still anti- our current Democrat governer, they took down their pro-Trump stuff as well. Now there's some sign about Jill Stein that's up but seems a lot less flamboyant.
Gun Grabber Don? You mean the only 21st century American president to sign an unconstitutional gun ban?
I think we all agree on the middle path. Keep posting bc every single voter counts. And share relevant expectations with the community who may not be 100% knowledgeable of the nuance.
Same reason the NRA barely made a peep about Philando Castile. Licensed to carry a gun, dutifully announced that to the officer, and got killed for it. A year later they said that was a shame or something like that and then immediately forgot about it again. White agent of the state good, black gun owner bad. The conservative gun rights movement has always been motivated by racism.
Conservatism is "there must be outgroups for the law to bind but not protect, and in groups for the law to protect but not bind" manifests again, here.
The joke is that it's the same damned thing when Eric Adams or Beto ORourke suggests it.
Take the guns from the poors is always the subtext. You never talk about disarming the police or curtailing access to private security.
Republicans just want to be vigilantes. And they're mad at Democrats when they can't hunt people in their neighborhood for sport.
I've talked to a fair number of progressives who are perfectly fine allowing firearms ownership based solely on class and wealth. They too, want "gun control" based on class and wealth.
Yep - "the police know everyone of them"
Indeed. They see all black people as criminals, I'm sure they're thinking "If we get him on a bullshit charge now, he can't steal a bicycle to sell for more hoodjuice or whatever it is those rappers sing about."
Disgraceful.
Newsflash: Dark Skin is not evidence of guilt, but try telling the cops that....
Read this comment before the article and thought it surely wouldn't be as obvious as you're stating.
Spoiler: with Chicago, it's usually more obvious.
One day I will finally untangle my sense of obligation to give bigots the benefit of the doubt. Can't wait but it's a lot of work and self reflection.
Gun control is racist?
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