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[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 80 points 5 months ago

In my neck of the woods paper plates and zero enforcement are such a problem that as long as you don't drive like you're trying to kill someone right then, directly in front of a cop, you can get away with anything. A friend of mine did eight months in a new truck with no plates at all, not even paper ones. My bike's registration is a year out of date. Painting all that shit on your car is just a voluntary "kick me" sign

[-] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 44 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

yeah it's like a trailer I saw the other day with "PLATES IN CAB" written across the back in huge letters and it's like my brother they are obligated to check now! If you hadn't written that literally noone would have noticed, but now any cop that sees the huge ass text HAS to call you on it

[-] AvocadoVapelung@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

plates in bio

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago

replying again because this got upvoted so much - is this now typical outside of Houston, Texas? Have cops really quit doing traffic enforcement nationwide?

[-] Ithorian@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago

Have cops really quit doing traffic enforcement nationwide?

My driving record proves that traffic enforcement is quite ubiquitous on the east coast anyway.

[-] StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 5 months ago

In a lot of jurisdictions plat issues are a "add-on" charge, they won't stop someone for plates but if you get pulled over they are going to add it to your ticket

See also plate covers

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

Have cops really quit doing traffic enforcement nationwide?

It is simply the free market in action. Police officers selectively enforce the laws that generate maximum revenue for the department, thus ensuring they can buy more landmine-proof trucks. It sounds like licensing infractions are not big ticket items in Houston.

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

Defund government agencies -> agencies now have to prioritize which things get done because they don’t have the staff -> agencies prioritize the highest yield efforts to ensure the lights stay on. Repeat cycle.

This is a problem beyond just the police. It’s how politicians (mainly Republicans) undermine laws and regulations they don’t like, without having to succeed in repealing them. The free market aspect is just a layer on top of this.

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

I think with police it's not defunding - no police departments were defunded in the USA, like two had their funding reduced for less than a year before getting it increased over the previous level. My perception is that the police are actively refusing to do most of their jobs now because they're still upset about BLM and the realization that most people don't really like or respect them.

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

True. I agree the specific case of police probably is not caused by shrinking budgets. Just adding in some context that, often, a focus on maximizing revenue is not solely due to market ideology. In fact, total net revenue may decrease even if the agency increases in % ‘profit’ (annual net revenue ÷ annual budget). The political motive for reducing the budget may not be in making the agency more efficient, but in fact undermining the agency as a whole, to force eventual abolishment or privatization.

[-] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think it's largely dependent on what kind of civilian traffic goes on in a particular area; it's probably a common experience near the major metro areas.

For example, for alot of people far to the northwest of Chicago the largest amount of driving they are going to be doing is along the tollways/interstates going between the various suburbs and the city with their destination probably very close to an exit. There's just straight up less of a chance of running into a cop than if you were using regular streets/roads. With the volume of traffic on highways you have to be acting like a COLOSSAL dumbass to get picked out of that crowd, there's less police per sq. mile watching it, and whatever law your breaking has to be worth disrupting all that traffic and that's a fraught situation in itself. You may see cops parked on the median with their speed guns out but they're not checking your stickers or stopping people for having expired plates, they're looking for the guy going 120+ on the shoulder or overloaded trucks.

E) Thanks @stalinsmawaifu for bringing up "add-on" charges, could have saved myself some keystrokes if I remembered the term.

If most of the traffic is on regular streets with slower residential or commercial areas those police have literally nothing better to do than cruise around looking for something like this to pounce on.

[-] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

H town mentioned *anime girl with an Astros hat, cup of lean, standing in front of a slab *

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

houston texas we drive ~~reckless~~ plateless and then we peel off

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 52 points 5 months ago

Outside of murdering black people police love to brutalize sovereign citizen types so good luck with that.

[-] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 57 points 5 months ago

tbf most "sovereign citizens" are racist ghouls, so they deserve to be picked on by thumbs

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 36 points 5 months ago

Yeah the overlap is a circle.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago

They're mostly failed cops IMO, and in any case they're 2 sides of the same coin, losers who want the law to not apply to them.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 12 points 5 months ago

Although honestly I can imagine a cop seeing this and going "fuck I can't deal with this dip shit today"

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Basically the only time I'll ever support amerikkka cops.

[-] rio@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Police will brutalize the “black Israelite” whackos and then spend 40 minutes politely asking the sovcits to please wind down the window before calling a supervisor who writes them a summons because it’s not their problem.

[-] Rom@hexbear.net 50 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Interesting, where in the constitution does it "gaurantee" that?

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 45 points 5 months ago

That's the thing, it doesn't matter.

They will recite with 1000% confidence a section it comes from.

"Section 408 subsection 3 heading c of the Virginia rights of motorways from 1905 states that a traveler........ "

Now sure, that section doesn't exist and the constitution isn't broken into that kind of formatting.

But are you going to explain the basics of general government, the constitution specifically, different formatting procedures, the deffinition of half a dozen different words including "travelling" "vehicle" and "operating", and then still get into a physical altercation with them where they shit their pants and go limp.

The entire methodology behind this is dealing with them is way more of a pain in the ass then calling them a dumbfuck and hoping they don't cause an accident.

[-] fart@hexbear.net 50 points 5 months ago

rear end it and see what happens

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 43 points 5 months ago

Violently and obviously key the car in front of them.

Doesn't damage your car and when they threatened to call the cops you get to say "Oh so now the cops have authority huh?"

[-] TeddyKila@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago

: susie-laugh

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 49 points 5 months ago

These are some of the most credulous people in the country. Be thankful they were taking in by the sovereign citizen cult instead of something much more dangerous. They are some of the most susceptible to bullshit people out there given how willing to act on the bullshit they've read they are.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 47 points 5 months ago

In response to the new US Constitutional Guidelines, I hereby declare that my Surplus Value is directly linked to my Labor. For commercial use of my Labor, my uncoerced consent is needed at all times! Repost this message before new US Terms of Service go into effect to tell the US Government that you don't want to be a Capitalist Slave!

[-] pixelghost@hexbear.net 38 points 5 months ago

If only there was some kind of alternate mode of personal transport that doesn't require government licensing and registration....

... Ride a bike, you say? What, like a fucking communist or something?

[-] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 10 points 5 months ago

I don’t ride a bike because I don’t have a death wish. Could you imagine sharing the road with morons like the one in this post? I just take the bus instead.

[-] pixelghost@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago

We should give the buses snow plows to push people like this out of the way.

[-] hopesdead@startrek.website 30 points 5 months ago

This is the equivalency of someone walking into a store, being politely asked to wear a mask and holding a tiny piece of paper saying they don’t have to.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago

“I have white skin, that means no one can tell ME what to do!”

[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago

""License plate""? What's next, requiring a license to make toast in my own damn toaster??

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

so-true : “But a software license so I can subscribe to my toaster? Most certainly!”

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 months ago

[-] The_Filthy_Commie@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 months ago

This motherfucker looks like an unpetrified gargoyle straight out of hell.

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 5 months ago

He looks like a fantasy goblin trying (poorly) to disguise himself as a human to me. I like to make goblins in my dnd campaigns hardcore libertarians because of this guy.

[-] The_Filthy_Commie@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 months ago

That's it.

[-] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

That debate was great

[-] Weedian@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

Him calling into Sam Seder's show, getting owned in a debate, and rage quitting the call is extremely funny and entertaining

[-] Doubledee@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

"Owner is one of the people "

The people: frothingfash

[-] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago

I read the constitution, there's no gaurantees there

sucks to suck

[-] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

you posted a picture of it working (currently) .

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

These people have cargo-culted legalese. They think the right incantation is all you need to get out of any laws you don't like. I kind of don't really blame them for it though, tbh. The law is pretty opaque and haphazardly applied. The funny thing is that this shit actually works a bunch purely out of cops not wanting the headache.