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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 102 points 5 months ago (4 children)

These are the same republicans who are still clutching their pearls for Bill Clinton getting a consensual BJ.

Sleeping with a pornstar while cheating on your 3rd wife, then paying off said pornstar to interfere with the election outcomes? - republicans see no crime there.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I really hate when people call it consensual. There's no reason to downplay how fucking creepy the power and balance of that interaction was. Doesn't do anyone any good to pretend like a sexual predator isn't a sexual predator.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you aren't Monica Lewinsky, I'm not really interested in hearing your opinion about the consent. She's more than capable of talking about her agency in that interaction, on her own. It's too bad she's never talked ab--

oh wait, she most certainly has: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2014/05/monica-lewinsky-speaks

Talking about it in these terms makes it seem like she's just a puppet. She's a person, and she made choices. (Which she regrets, but she still owns that she made those choices.)

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Okay, but she was a freaking intern and he was the president. It’s an inappropriate professional relationship. You get fired for pulling something like that at most companies simply because there is a reporting relationship.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sure. Inappropriate, a firing offense, etc. All true. She even describes the treatment she received after it came out as "abuse". All valid.

Still consensual. Still not someone else's place to talk about whether it was her decision or not; it was, and she has said so.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago

I remember sooooo many Republicans/cons at the time that were losing their mud over it. Red-faced, yelling, they would honestly say that he should be in front of a firing squad. They'd say this kind of thing out loud.

I remember asking one I knew quite well more about this - asking what law he broke, asking if it was actually illegal to get a blowjob from someone not your wife. Their response: "But it should be illegal!!!" They were so angry at this point that they were beet red, and it was pretty much the end of the conversation - they were essentially speechless.

All the cons were, and still are, apoplectic over Clinton getting some head from someone not his wife. Just ask some old con you know.

For some weird reason, they don't seem to remember or care about Newt doing the exact same thing. And now, of course, they could GAF about Ronald McDonald banging a porn star, paying her off and covering that up, violating many actual laws.

[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 27 points 5 months ago

then paying off said pornstar to interfere with the election outcomes?

You forgot the most important part: Feloniously classifying those payments as "legal expenses."

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They are not. Those were conservatives. They still exist as the more “moderate” right. You hear them pipe up against “the excessive flow of migrants,” and label transgender support as “inappropriate bedroom behavior.”

These are MAGA Republicans or far-right Trump loyalists that will do anything to see their choice of dictator reign supreme.

Both groups will vote for Trump in November.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If it talks like MAGA and if it votes like MAGA, it is MAGA

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

So everyone on the left is progressive then? No liberals?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 72 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

For anyone reading this who might be advocating violence elsewhere:

  1. This will not go the way you think it will.

  2. "Where we go one, we go all" yeah, and I can tell you right now where y'all are going:

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 90 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Thats a really nice cell. I dont think they'll be going to a place like that.

[–] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The funny thing is that if Trump is sent to prison from a Manhattan court, he’s going to Rikers Island

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 33 points 5 months ago

It would be so cool if Trump went to Rikers Island so that @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world can post Riker playing the sad trombone again.

A Riker for Rikers!

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, what is that, a cell in Norway?

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Way too restrictive for a Norwegian prison. Norwegian prisons have proper window at least

[–] Spez@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 months ago

Its the basement guest rooms of Mar-a-lago

[–] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Image search suggests it's an ADX supermax in Colorado

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Supermax cell. ;)

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

...but I'll allow it if they could all just go to one of those.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I had forgotten all about wiggywagga. What a bunch of loons.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 62 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Does anyone know if the fed is protecting these people? Or if they will?

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 74 points 5 months ago (2 children)

State court, so whatever special court security plus NYPD. That's just protecting. The use of telephone or internet to make threats puts FBI in the mix.

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago (2 children)

...bright side, the NYPD attacks first and asks questions later? Finally a use for their brutality?

Though I'm not sure how that plays out when most of the trumpies are WASPs.

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You ever see a cop beat a Trump supporter? I haven't. I've seen many videos of cops beating liberals, "Antifa", and non-whites though.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 5 months ago

They got that far because they were treated very differently than the BLM protesters the summer before.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

To be fair to them, I wouldn't punch one of my coworkers either.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Wasn't Ronald McDonald telling them to not hold their head down when putting them in the car and "not be so nice"? Or does that only apply to someone peacefully protesting one of Ronald McDonald's Nuremberg rallies?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wish they'd capture the reactions of these twerps when the "deep state" comes knocking on their door.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I would pay whatever subscription they ask for CSPAN+ if I could watch MAGA terrorists being arrested and the bomb squads looking through their terror shacks.

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 56 points 5 months ago (1 children)

These are the same people that constantly chanted "lock her up".

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

I like to play fun little game matching Trumpanzees' hypocrisies to the exact analogous situation. I already used "lock her up" to match the classified documents felonies. I think I'd use something else to match this one, like something about them screeching over "terrorists" "flooding" across the border. They are the terrorists and always were.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 54 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I present to you, the Law and Order people.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

BUM-BUM, da da da duh DUN

[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago (1 children)

FBI needs to start rounding all these fuckers up and lock them away. I hope we see thousands of these idiots in prison cells before November. Keep talking shit and making threats! The "Deep State" is coming for you!

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

We've needed some of that deep state to be monitoring and disrupting maga terrorist cells for some time now. I'd really like to see some of that.

But DHS gave an honest assessment of the real domestic terrorist threat (the right wing) at the tail end of the Dumbya regime, and the Republicans freaked the hell out about it.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Good luck. These people live on Manhattan. The downtown ones might have doormen. The uptown ones might live in a building with non-white people, possibly with doormen too.

Trump supporters won't last a few hours without someone telling them to go fuck themselves back to Topeka.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Someone posted a gif of that punch the other day, but they skipped over the portion where he is lying face down on the pavement. The longer gif really adds some depth to it.

[–] tsonfeir@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Topeka? That’s way too urban for those fools.