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[-] retrospectology@lemmy.world 231 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What a wild time to be around in. Imagine trying to explain to a Reagan republican in the 80s that by the 2020s they'd be following a guy who literally does nothing to hide the fact that he's a Russian asset for an ex-KGB strong man.

The right really has totally collapsed the notion of fact based reality.

[-] Aux@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Well, Russia is not communist anymore, Reagan would be happy!

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 23 points 5 months ago

He might be happy about defeating communism, but he wouldn't be happy about getting cozy with Russia.

My grandfather was happy to win WW2, but he never bought a German or Japanese car, you know? Also, he didn't use the words "German" or "Japanese", but that's another story...

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[-] TTH4P@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

I'm trying to think of what my father is saying to himself. I would guess he's just laughing at Tuck for being "a joke" without allowing any introspection whatsoever. :)

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 119 points 5 months ago
[-] Omgarm@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago

Nature is healing.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 109 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Holy fuck.

I wonder if this is when his fans clue in. They really should.

[-] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 64 points 5 months ago

They won’t.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 53 points 5 months ago

His fans think Putin's Russia is the way to be. "You get your coin back when you return the shopping cart!"

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 30 points 5 months ago

"You could go to Aldi for that experience..."

"No! Become Russia!"

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[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Which fans, the ones moving to Russia, the ones that want the US to buddy up with Russia/Putin, or the ones that basically fantasize about electing Putin as US President?

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Those people are thoroughly immune to reality. Not a chance.

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[-] ATDA@lemmy.world 107 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Correction 05/21/24, 1:10 p.m. ET: This article was updated to make clear there is no evidence the Tucker Carlson Network has done a deal with Russian state TV.

They changed the article title and comment to correctly reflect the report that Russia is just playing his crap which says enough about his ideology. But real lax initial reporting standards...

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Damn. The race to be first to report is a problem. It’s worse than the old race you see in movies and tv about broadcast news and newspapers.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Believe it or not, it's better than it used to be.

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[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I don't like Tucker Carlson, but he's doing the most American thing he can possibly do.

Name anything more American than giving zero fucks about the moral/ethical/destructive/antisocial implications of an action and TAKING THE FUCKING MONEY?

That is literally our most cherished core value in practice, prioritized higher than any other claimed values we pay lip service to. We literally make children go hungry and leave their public schools in underfunded ruin to cut our most zealous profiteer's taxes and call it horseshit like "fostering self-reliance."

I don't like that about us, I don't like us period. But it's who we are, balls to bones. People either fucking each other over for moooaaaaaar money, or fantasizing about getting to be the ones doing it, when we aren't shooting each other at least.

Our practiced values are wrong, and fully explain the hell we've made for ourselves. Tucker/Trump/Jones/McConnell etc people exist in prominence precisely because we celebrate/worship/emulate greed and the greedy instead of throwing rotten fruit at them when they show their faces. We literally beg life advice of our antisocial greed lords.

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

If this were all true we wouldn't have Medicaid, Medicare, or social security. There wouldn't be welfare, literally at all and Unions wouldn't exist. Not to mention that slavery would never have been abolished.

There is a moral core that has run through this country since it's inception that is currently being suppressed by the ultra wealthy in their race to gain more wealth and power through the use of social media platforms and most major media outlets. But there's only so much their suppression can do before that moral core comes knocking at their doors and demands a reckoning.

[-] mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

If I was him, I'd be a little cautious about taking Russian money. It's not about damaging your own reputation. (its already damaged anyway). Its about being subject to Putin and Russian oligarchs and getting unalived if failing to do certain things.

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[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I don’t like that about us, I don’t like us period. But it’s who we are, balls to bones.

painfully honest; well put.

[-] AshMan85@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago

Traitor Carlson.

[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 28 points 5 months ago

He is not producing a show for Russian state TV. Rather, Russian state TV has taken his episodes and is rebroadcasting them with Russian dubbing.

While still indicative of the kinds of views Carlson has and espouses, it is different than what the headline here suggests.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago
[-] whodatdair@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 months ago

Literally had to check a few times to make sure I wasn’t eating the onion 🧅

[-] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Stranger than fiction

[-] casmael@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

It’s ~~like~~ a bad joke

[-] OhmsLawn@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

The Onion has gone so hard recently, and real stories have gotten so bizarre.

I'm really getting confused.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 7 points 5 months ago

The powers that be have allowed The Onion to author reality "for the lulz."

[-] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

"Along the way, The Onion’s journalists have garnered a sterling reputation for accurately forecasting future events. One such coup was The Onion’s scoop revealing that a former president kept nuclear secrets strewn around his beach home’s basement three years before it even happened."

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[-] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 5 months ago

Now this i DID have on my 2024 bingo card, right in the center as a given point.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Of course he did, he's like a stereotype "Red" agent out of the Cold War. He will be living and thriving there once Dems take everything back. Good riddance.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I wish I had your optimism.

All I see in our future is Mango Mussolini and the heritage foundation/federalist society running rampant completing their fascist theocracy...

But hey, at least we taught Democrats a lesson...

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 7 points 5 months ago

It's a long time to the election, and the more he gets to speak the more 30% of the country loves him and 60% hates him. Fight for it, but have faith. Pro-Trump rhetoric anecdotally seems much, much lower than in 2020. Fewer bumper stickers and yard signs. But I live in Michigan where the party is broke and shattered.

I think Dobbs actually broke the backs of centrist conservatives. Trump is running rightward to gain ever more crackpot voters for his base and I think there is a huge disillusioned middle.

[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

How much more proof do people need that shows this fuck along with Fox News and the Republican Party that they're Russian informants, propagandists, useful idiots or all the above? The critical thinking in this country is beyond abysmal.

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[-] foggy@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago
[-] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

It shouldn't be long until a streaming link is available via truth social.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

But he already had a show on Fox, and has a show on Twitter. How's this any different?

[-] twinnie@feddit.uk 6 points 5 months ago

he will interview figures and politicians who have "alternative views to the mainstream."

Try presenting the view that Russia invaded Ukraine. See how well that goes.

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

No he didnt.

[-] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 6 points 5 months ago

I’ll take “no shit” for 1000, Alex

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 months ago

As a Swede I read news about the American prez ellection while on the bus home from work, and I just get madder and madder, then I suddenly realize that I am not a US citizen and don't even live in the US, and I relax....

...then I remember that we are part of NATO now...

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago

Good news: should Trump win, we'll probably leave or dissolve NATO, so there's that.

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[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 4 points 5 months ago

I remember ribbing an english friend about brexit just before trump got elected. then I was all like, yeah but he will be gone in a few years. Now I am here with a decade later being just a few years away and looking down the barrel of him having taken one of the two parties that win elections over here.

[-] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

they can fucking have him, just dont give him back ever

[-] bazus1@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago
[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 29 points 5 months ago

That guy Jon Stewart shamed into giving up his stupid bow tie

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

If only he'd been more ashamed of his shitty slimy politics and kept the silly bow tie instead.

[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

He should move there.

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