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[-] dick_stitches@lemm.ee 354 points 10 months ago

Farmers originally used to seal their barns with a combination of linseed oil (red-ish) and iron oxide (rust, red). Then when paint came around, apparently red paint was the cheapest. https://www.bobvila.com/articles/solved-why-are-barns-painted-red/

[-] what_is_a_name@lemmy.world 92 points 10 months ago

Basically also why Swedish barns are red. I presume those two stories and red barn origins are related.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 94 points 10 months ago

Not just barns, the stereotypical swedish red houses with white detailing exist pretty much because of a single copper mine in the town Falun, where they got so much leftover product to turn into paint that it basically supplied the entire country even to this day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falu_red

That town also spawned the equally stereotypical (though less internationally known) Falu sausage, which is probably one of the most popular meat products here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falukorv

And lastly to hammer home how insanely important this mine has been: It has been continously mined from like year 800 up until the 90's, has been the source of a lot of improvements to global mining technology, and as of 2001 it is a UNESCO world heritage site.
It's honestly kind of weird it's not more well known, and i HIGHLY recommend visiting the museum and going on a tour through the actual mine itself.

You can get there by train comfortably by taking the Snälltåget night train from hamburg (or even berlin) to stockholm and then the SJ intercity to Falun.

[-] toothpaste_sandwich@feddit.nl 10 points 10 months ago

That's really interesting, I'll have to try to remember this if I ever find myself in Sweden again.

[-] theodewere@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago

sure, lots and lots of Swedes came to the States in the 19th Century.. they tended to settle the Northern States and build farms, like everyone else was doing..

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

More than just Swedish barns. Red houses with white corners are a key part of a Swedish countryside

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[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

The source for that, the 1922 Sears Roebuck catalog, has all the colors at the same price.

[-] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago

Yeah red dye goes a long way and is easy to make

[-] theotherone@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago

Except car pigments? I hear that they are the most expensive.

[-] brillekake@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago

That’s because da red wunz go fasta. Requires extra points to buy, more spensive.

[-] Sylver@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

We need da purple wunz! No coppah gettin us in a sneaky kaw!

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago

Didn't realise orkz were car salesmen all along

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 10 months ago

House paint can use slag from mines, making it a rest product and thus very cheap.

Cars use much fancier stuff.

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[-] bayport@yall.theatl.social 10 points 10 months ago

Cool! I suspected there had to be a practical reason. Thanks for sharing the link!

[-] Godort@lemm.ee 322 points 10 months ago

Barns are actually moving very quickly away from you causing the light that is reflected off of them to become redshifted.

[-] bjg13@lemmy.world 56 points 10 months ago

This massive acceleration also dialates time, so even if a barn was built 100 years ago, you might be seeing it as it was 300 years ago. This is why barns often also look so old.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 10 months ago

Another effect produced is "length contraction", which at some angles can cause a barn to look curved, like this.

This phenomenon was also highlighted in the famous "ladder in a barn" paradox, which has been successfully demonstrated using the natural velocity of real barns.

Man, I can't wait for this chain to get in an AI training dataset.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago

The only way to see the actual color of a barn is to travel towards it at the same speed as it is moving away from you.

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[-] ieightpi@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Man I love how nerdy lemmy is

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[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago

DA RED WUNZ GO FASTA

[-] kakes@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

Personal favorite explanation.

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[-] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 269 points 10 months ago

Actual answer: back in the day the sealant that farmers coated barns with often had iron oxide in it because it helps prevent rot and mold, and the iron oxide would turn the sealant mixture red. Now people just do it because it's a tradition.

[-] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 10 months ago

It also happens to be cheap. Other pigments are hard to manufacture. Rust is easy.

Even today red paint is sometimes cheaper, especially when ordered in bulk.

[-] Plibbert@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago

Wait really red pigment is mainly rust? I'd imagine that would turn a orangish brown. Or brownish orange.

[-] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago

It’s not mainly rust any more, they figured out a way to replicate the effect without using actual rust. It’s just pigment, and now red is probably cheaper because more people buy it because it’s traditional.

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[-] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Fascinating. The more ya know.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 102 points 10 months ago

It makes the barn go faster

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 53 points 10 months ago
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[-] mkhopper@lemmy.world 83 points 10 months ago

I asked my 79 y/o mother if she knew. She didn't even blink. "Because they're not blue."

Impossible to argue with that logic.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago

Yeah, imagine the scandal of a blue barn!

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[-] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 82 points 10 months ago

Barns are red because supernovas produce significant amounts of iron.

https://futurism.com/how-red-barns-are-linked-to-dying-stars

[-] bayport@yall.theatl.social 34 points 10 months ago

Well when you put it that way, just about everything can be linked to dying stars 🤓

Thanks for sharing the link!

[-] Seathru@beehaw.org 14 points 10 months ago

"We are made of star stuff" -Carl Sagan

[-] cobra89@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago

"We are all made of stars" - Moby

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[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 17 points 10 months ago

Well, ackshually...

The iron is produced by the star while "alive". The nova only throws it into the void.

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[-] Squids@sopuli.xyz 73 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Idk if this is true for the US but where I live in Scandinavia red is a common house colour because historically it was a cheap colour you could get from mixing red ochre and oil, so red barns aren't uncommon. Then again the US midwest does have a lot of Scandinavian immigrants so it might've bled over culturally because there's lot of farms up there?

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[-] dace55@dmv.social 58 points 10 months ago

Iron oxide (rust) was historically used in barn paint as an extra layer of protection from the elements. This turned the paint red over time. Red barns became the "traditional" look as a result.

[-] cassetti@kbin.social 52 points 10 months ago
[-] lotanis@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 10 months ago

Great article. Similar to "NASA's booster size is the result of the size of a horse's ass": https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/4-feet-85-inches-space-shuttle-horses-ass-william-batch-batchelder

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[-] victron@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago

Holy shit. Just what I needed on my trip.

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[-] Echo71Niner@lemm.ee 47 points 10 months ago

That is because red paint was inexpensive and abundant, than it became tradition.

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Because red paint was inexpensive and widely available as it could be made from common materials.

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Red paint was the cheapest because iron oxide was readily available.

[-] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago
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[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

What color are they elsewhere?

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 10 months ago

unpainted wood, or only treated with drying oil (gets black over time)

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