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Huawei brings sanctions-busting Kirin 9000C CPU to desktop PCs to replace banned Intel Alder Lake chips (www.tomshardware.com)

submitted 2 years ago by yogthos@lemmy.ml to c/technology@hexbear.net

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[–] D61@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago (3 children)

As reported by Huawei Central, the new Qingyun W515x is equipped with China's bleeding-edge octa-core Kirin 9000C processor, which clocks up to 3.1 GHz.

squidward-chill

While the CPU specs remain a secret, the CPU cooler is a low-profile unit that reportedly maintains a chassis temperature below 30C at maximum load. The fan noise level is also quiet, coming in at 21.82 dB.

squidward-nochill

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Sounds impressive but this should really be the baseline for non enthusiast CPU temps and power draw if x86 processors weren't so inefficient.

[–] Teapot@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

30 C (86 F) should be baseline at load? Lol. This thing is severely underclocked if that is the temp at load. Laptop processors basically run at 90 C

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But should they run at 90c? They certainly don't have to, and it would sure be nice to just use much more efficient chips that don't produce all that waste heat and burn through power.

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then imagine how cool they could get if software devs actually cared about efficiency

[–] D61@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

RETVRN TO TRADITION: When ram was measured in KB and video game had to load and run off of a floppy disk.

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Oh I didn't read the at load part. It's perfectly reasonable at idle and low load applications.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

below 30C at maximum load

Yeah right. I'll believe it when I see it tested independently.

Genuinely seems farfetched.

[+] Vivendi@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

10 years behind

lol you are absolutely taking the piss if you think these are only comparable to Haswell. Orientalist bias is pouring off of this statement from your 9 day old account with an entire 2 comments ever made. The Chinese brainpan just can't possibly compete!

[–] fuckiforgotmypasswor@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

maybe-later-honey China is stealing tech patents and its not fair, also their tech is 10 years behind, also they live in a dystopian tech-ruled surveillance state, also their economy is about to collapse, also they are single-handedly destabilizing US hegemony

[–] sudo_halt@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Their core designs are more or less way behind, because they needed to learn and create lots of infrastructure technology. Read the Chips and Cheese article on the latest Loongson cores, even tho they have impressive technology in some aspects, the core design is way behind AMD or even Intel.

Zhaoxin is also a bad joke.

Kirin in particular is ARM based and they at least have access to ARM core designs, so it's a surely better situation than fully domestic projects. But still, more single core performance is incredibly hard to achieve, and don't be surprised to learn that these CPUs are only capable of simple tasks.

I'm an Iranian computer engineer and a ProleWiki contributor. I'm not coming from a place of malice, I'm stating the facts of the matter on Chinese technology.

[+] Vivendi@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

deleted by creator

michael-laugh

[–] sudo_halt@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I replied to you with this account.

I would also like to note that the FIRST comment I made with that acc was in defense of China. EDIT: I deleted it actually but I was defending against the Xinjiang bullshit

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

10 years is still absolutely ridiculous and you should feel silly for having said that. At most they're 1 generation behind. Comparing them to Haswell? HASWELL? Really?

I think you know this was silly and why it provoked a reaction from me.

[–] sudo_halt@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Haswell is actually not an ancient core, lot's of the tech used in Haswell is still relevant today. Fuck, it took RiscV years until they had anything comparable to Haswell's SIMD.

[–] imikoy@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

x86 is bad with power efficiency, ARM is much better. Some ARM Apple laptops don't have a cooler, even.

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

5nm technology is the best manufacturing process China currently has access to. Since U.S. regulations have banned China's access to the latest generation of chipmaking tools, China's chipmaking facilities have to deal with the restrictions of older shipbuilding tools that aren't necessarily capable of building the latest-generation tech, like extreme ultraviolet lithography (EUV). It has limited China's ability to develop competitive CPUs with Intel, AMD, Apple, and Qualcomm's latest chips.

I didn't know ships were used in microprocessors!

[–] CoolYori@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The process of poisoning sand until it thinks is complex.

[–] ImmortanStalin@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 years ago

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

5nm?!! That's 2020 tech, they may as well go back to stone tools if they're one generation behind!

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The node size has been pure marketing for like 15 years now

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Oh, hey Bob! I didn't know you were still around, glad to have such a brave patriot here on Hexbear. o7

[–] RION@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

Can't wait to see this post locked on r/hardware

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

A new system with a slow China-made processor

thanks for the adjective, tomshardware.com

China's bleeding-edge octa-core Kirin 9000C processor, which clocks up to 3.1 GHz

The Kirin 9000C is an octa-core CPU with 12 threads and a 2.48 GHz frequency

🤔

~(might\ just\ be\ top\ vs.\ default\ clock\ speed\ but\ whatever,\ 0/10\ for\ ambiguous\ writing)~

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago

gotta add some cope to the article as not to offend western sensibilities :)

[–] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/copium

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

9,000°C🫨

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

niko-yawn let me know when its over 9000

[–] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

More competıtıon in chipmaking is always welcome.