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submitted 6 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Donald Trump has not been accused of paying for sex, but several supporters protesting outside of his trial on Monday wanted to make it clear that they have. It seems the crowds that come out to protest the persecution of the former president are getting smaller, and weirder

Today, however, the crowd had thinned to a handful of true believers and true characters – those who don’t leave their house without a giant flag, a bullhorn, and an offensive T-shirt they made themselves.

It’s not only that the crowds are getting smaller, it’s that they are getting significantly weirder.

Of the people willing to step up to a microphone outside the courthouse and defend Mr Trump for allegedly paying off a porn star to hide his alleged affair from prospective voters, two offered something of a wild defence: that they opposed the charges because they too had paid for sex on more than one occasion, and assumed most men had done the same

It didn’t matter to them that Mr Trump is not being accused of paying for sex, but rather accused of having embarked on several extra-marital affairs and falsifying business records over payments made to hide those affairs from the voting public in 2016.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 253 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Well, let’s legalize prostitution. Regulate it, tax it, legitimize it.

Conservatives: hell no, we can’t have that depravity and vice. We need to punish women for sex outside of marriage. Oh, yeah…and no abortions for them either. (Unless it’s my daughter or mistress)

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 70 points 6 months ago

Also conservatives: Yeah, we still pay for sex. Rules only apply to other people.

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 46 points 6 months ago

They legitimately believe it should be fine to pay for sex, but should be illegal to be paid for sex.

[-] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

Most sex workers are women, so it tracks

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[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You should take a look at some of the jons they pick up in prostitution stings. Overnight in jail for soliciting a prostitute and church the next day.

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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 22 points 6 months ago

That old post that posited conservatism is "ingroups to protect, outgroups to bind" was really on the mark.

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[-] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 34 points 6 months ago

It makes my head hurt how ridiculous conservatives are and how they spin things. They’re only making their lives harder. Imagine the amount of tax revenue that could be collected from legalizing prostitution.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 22 points 6 months ago

Let's say it together: they don't actually care about fiscal responsibility.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's obvious that they don't because they only ever work one variable (spending) of the fucking equation:

spending - income = deficit

Even if you stop all of your spending entirely, you'll remain in debt forever if you never have any income, so it's a losing way to fix the problem, but that won't stop them or their idiot voters from insisting upon it.

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[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago

Oh yeah, and make it more difficult for those trapped in their situation to get out of it.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Gotta keep women in their place and under control, even if we say it’s the wrong place. It’s all about control and restricting their autonomy.

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[-] SquishyPandaDev@yiffit.net 133 points 6 months ago

FFS he is not in trouble for paying for sex. He is in trouble for paying hush money using campaign funds. Good lord, conservatives are so brainwashed

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 64 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I just had this argument with a friend of mine. It’s even legal to pay someone to sign an NDA. The charges are “Falsifying business records in the first degree.”

It’s not a “hush-money trial” it’s “criminal business fraud.”

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Don't forget election interference

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

That’s a separate trial in Georgia. He also has the classified documents case tried in Florida.

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[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

Just like Clinton wasn't in trouble for the blowjob. He was in trouble for lying about it under oath. But everyone who talks about it now says he got impeached for a blowjob.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's exactly why Republicans cried "purgery trap" when people wanted to have Trump testify as president. They knew what they did during the Clinton investigation and just assume Democrats would somehow "force" Trump to lie about something completely unrelated...

The Clinton investigation was over real estate and somehow made it's way over to blow jobs.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 13 points 6 months ago

Exactly. He got impeached for lying about questioning unrelated to the investigation on him after the actual subject of the investigation bore no fruit.

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[-] Ioughttamow@kbin.run 90 points 6 months ago
[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 48 points 6 months ago

Satire is dead, reality killed it.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 15 points 6 months ago

Most countries remove their moron politicians. The United States just allows them to remain president until the end of term.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 months ago

3rd world countries like the US have all sorts of backwards politics.

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 37 points 6 months ago

I had the same reaction last week when a bunch of GOP reps starting speaking in tongues on the floor.

[-] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 months ago

That made my physically ill when I read about it. That's some serious theatrics and/or mental illness.

[-] Erasmus@lemmy.world 58 points 6 months ago

Ah yes - the party of the Christian church isn’t it? 😂

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[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 52 points 6 months ago

Chud Life Baby 😎

Yes, let’s legalize and give protections to all the sex workers.

Chuds: No, not like that!!

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago

Isn't that a crime in the US? Did these people just confess to crimes? But of course they're "conservatives" so it's OK.

[-] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 37 points 6 months ago

TBF, I wouldn't want people to be persecuted just for saying out loud that they did a crime. Imagine if I went outside today and shouted, "My house doesn't have a secondary fire escape and is therefore outside building regulations!". Should I then be investigated for committing a crime, or should someone just tell me to shut up and stop shouting in the middle of the road?

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

Oddly specific, weird example

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

I would say it depends on the type of crime and the amount of detail. If you say out loud, "I murdered John Smith last Tuesday" and John Smith had been murdered last Tuesday, I think you should probably get investigated for the murder of John Smith.

If you say "I've had sex with a prostitute" but don't go further than that in terms of any details, definitely not.

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[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 13 points 6 months ago
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[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Not everywhere. Prostitution is legal in Nevada (just not within the city limits of Vegas).

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[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

Just like Jesus from his pedestal... Let whoever amungst us hasn't paid for sex throw the first felony.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 17 points 6 months ago

Actually Jesus said "Let whoever among us who hasn't falsified business records throw the first felony."

The paying for sex was a mistranslation.

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[-] n0m4n@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

Melania pays and pays and pays...

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[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

Ok but like we know you already have the incel vote on lock down.

[-] tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

Sex work is work. And if it's work, there are customers.

There's probably a long list of reasons to criticize these Trump supporters, including not understanding what this case in particular is about, but being customers of sex work ain't it.

Demonizing customers of sex work maintains the taboo and hurts the movement to legitimize, legalize, regulate, and provide normal employment benefits to sex work.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

I'm not so sure that the author wasn't taken in by a Yes Men style prank. Because honestly, that sounds like satire and the satire wasn't coming from the author of the article.

[-] minorcoma@lemmy.world 44 points 6 months ago

Reality has become indistinguishable from satire.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 14 points 6 months ago

🙋‍♂️

I've only been paid for sex, never paid for it myself.

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