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Why we oppose votes for men. (hexbear.net)

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Alice Duer Miller

Alice Duer Miller (July 28, 1874 – August 22, 1942) was an American writer whose poetry actively influenced political opinion. Her feminist verses influenced political opinion during the American suffrage movement, and her verse novel The White Cliffs influenced political thought during the U.S.'s entry into World War II. She also wrote novels and screenplays.

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[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago

Dudes have no time to rock if they're always voting

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago

I love this, basically it's showing misogynists how silly they are by flipping their own "bio truth" bullshit against them.

Sadly most misogynists probably don't get the nuance

[-] iByteABit@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago

This is plain misandry peterson-pain

[-] BigHaas@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

This isn't silly, men are genuinely too testerical to be leaders.

[-] Pili@hexbear.net 30 points 4 months ago

Good stuff, but I'll also add that I shouldn't have the right to vote because electoralism is a joke and we need a revolution through armed struggle.

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

we need a revolution through armed struggle.

Sounds like something a man would say ugh

[-] Pili@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

I think that's the 2nd point on the list, I'm terminally a man.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 28 points 4 months ago

She liked the "Why we oppose ______________________" format.

Why We Oppose Pockets for Women by Alice Duer Miller - Poems | Academy of American Poets

Because pockets are not a natural right.

Because the great majority of women do not want pockets. If they did they would have them.

Because whenever women have had pockets they have not used them.

Because women are required to carry enough things as it is, without the additional burden of pockets.

Because it would make dissension between husband and wife as to whose pockets were to be filled.

Because it would destroy man’s chivalry toward woman, if he did not have to carry all her things in his pockets.

Because men are men, and women are women. We must not fly in the face of nature.

Because pockets have been used by men to carry tobacco, pipes, whiskey flasks, chewing gum and compromising letters. We see no reason to suppose that women would use them more wisely.

[-] JustSo@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago

Because it would make dissension between husband and wife as to whose pockets were to be filled.

This is deep.

[-] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago

Oh God, Lemmy does that too? (Turn your quoted 5 into a 1)

[-] booty@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

It's just markdown. Following a number with a period and a space is how you tell it to insert a numerical list, which always starts at 1. If you want to avoid that, you need to use the escape character: \

It's just the same way using asterisks around words makes them italic. If you want to actually display the *asterisks* you have to tell it not to do that.

[-] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Oh yeah I get that. I had an argument with several reddit admins back when the redesign was first happening about respecting the actual number used rather than starting from 1 and I still, to this day, don't see why this is better in any way. People will ask questions and it will screw up the answer, people will quote from an ordered list and it will screw up the quote, and so on. The only benefit that they could tell me was that if someone was writing their comment and added a new step/list item they don't have to shift the numbers manually, but I don't see how that is worth all the misquotes and issues it causes. Sad to see Lemmy does the same thing, but maybe it can still be fixed.

[-] booty@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

Classic PEBKAC error. If you wanna quote one item in a numbered list just use the escape character to prevent it from starting it as a new numbered list. Like, if you tried to quote my *asterisks* it would turn the word asterisks italic, which is the exact same issue. But I don't personally think they should remove the asterisks turning things italic, it's a convenient feature.

[-] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago

I'm not saying remove markdown or any of its features, I'm saying use the number provided for ordered lists. This avoids user error and makes for a more predictable user experience. I'm aware of escape characters.

[-] booty@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah I'd much much rather have the list automatically re-number everything than have to go do it manually for large lists

[-] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

And I would rather the other way.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

[-] Rom@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

7. Because men are men, and women are women. We must not fly in the face of nature.

Me out there cross-breeding pants trees for increased pocket size

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

I had no clue the lack of pockets is an issue that’s existed for over a century now. Ffs clothes companies, just give women’s clothing pockets that work.

[-] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

“chewing gum bad” - misogynists

[-] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago

Can you imagine how fed up and angry this woman would have been if sexism hadn't ended in 1916?

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Her hair would be so blue it would make people go blind if they looked at it.

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago

1 through 4, I could see some weird corner of the manosphere taking up that rhetoric.

[-] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

only Frogs FrogPog truly have the wisdom and patience to lead

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

But only after the chemicals in the water turn them gay.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

It's a bit hard to see but some of the men are walking skeletons. I looked but I couldn't find a better image.

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

suffrage skelly sez:

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