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This is one of the only reasons I'm still a little hopeful about 2024. Even if Trump wins, he very well could not control the legislature. And because of abortion.
trump would veto everything passed by a democrat-controlled congress that didn't pass with near-unanimous support from republicants, too; abuse tf out of 'executive orders' (even more than the first go around); stack scotus even more; and further empower other nutjobs to follow in his diaper droppings.
trump moving back to 1600 penn ave nw would be a disaster from which this nation would not recover.
Sure, but he would also not be able to pass laws that he needed to pass in order to cement his dictatorship plans. Which is why I have a slight amount of optimism.
The world's-most-evil-sun-dried-tangelo led an insurrection and is successfully running for president again with people carrying out conversations such as "why Trump's serious attempt at dictatorship might not be so bad." If he wins, I'd expect any dissenting Dems to be forced out either by pressures within or legitimate coordinated attacks from MAGA supporters.
Hell, there's a high probability powerful political adversaries will be straight up killed and they'd call it Operation Hummingbird to honor the true architect of the current Conservative playbook.
I don't disagree, but I am going to cling to any shred of hope I can cling to. I can't just accept that all is lost until all is actually lost.
When the first assassination (“suicide”) comes, you should pack your bags.
I have dual citizenship, possibly a third option although I would have to renounce the other two, so that's not an issue.
This guy plans ahead haha
One of the things that convinced a few Never Trumpers to quit was the risk of violence. They'll be happy to expand the program.
Why would he even bother with all of the red tape and process to pass laws? He would just issue ~~imperial edicts~~ executive orders to do whatever he wanted. Laws have never meant shit to him. And why would they? He breaks them with impunity and never faces any real consequences. If he has an unfriendly congress, he'll ignore them.
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He's not aiming to depend on the legislature.
Going to replace career non-partisan positions across most departments.
Once you own the paper pushers, doing things by the book becomes much less relevant.
In theory there were rules in Germany that would have prevented Hitler up until the point he declared those rules no longer applied and his armed militia agreed with him.
It's a truly bizarre single issue to focus on considering how high impact it is to the masses and how it presumably isn't enabling them to make more money or solidify control.
If they just brought in a couple of populist policies that made the masses happy they probably would have majority control indefinitely on a platform of hate against the minority.
I hope everyone uses the following buzz-words when discussing this with conservatives, moderates, centrists, etc.:
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"I mean I'm for individual freedom as much as the next guy, so that's why I don't think it's right to have government intrude on an individual's rights to their own body."
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"I thought Republicans wanted small government? Why are they forcing government in the doctor's office with me and my doctor?"
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"I thought Republicans were all about 'my house my rules,' — why are they so concerned about an unconscious parasite that is getting free rent from my body? That fetus is a squatter I can evict whenever I want!"
Identify the double-standard in conservative values.
Legit people need to start doing this. I've been saying it for years.
'I'm a true American patriot, I'm not gonna let the government tell me or my fiancee what I can and can't do with my body. Stop being a commy' said to an anti abortion republican with an American flag. I also call them snowflakes.
It works with all the anti-LGBTQ stuff, too:
"I'm a rugged individualist, which is why I think people should be able to identify and call themselves whatever they want!"
"As a freedom lover, I see no difference between respecting someone preferring to be called Josh over Joshua, and someone preferring different pronouns. Doesn't 'ffect me none.... After all, it's just about showing respect to your good neighbor."
Good neighbor reminded me, it also works for religion if you're talking to those types.
'the lord said love thy neighbor and something about throwing stones, fuck you for being a bigot'.
The trick ive caught on to is to be nonconfrontational, nonthreatening, and try and get in good with them first. The conservatives i talk to these days are other exploited poors from my work. They like me, and i def play into being eccentric/nonconforming which resounds well with these individualism loving individuals. So then i just frame any of these sorts of issues you highlighted from that angle.
Its... not something theyre ever prepared for.
Another tip is to present as some sort of radical centrist, regardless of how much of a far left heathen u may in actuality be.
I had very good luck actually convincing christians that supporting LBGT rights was a christian activity. But that was back in the early 2000's and they were a bit more reasonable back then and actually willing to think. Basically, I would get them to pull the God doesn't make mistakes card and that people are being tested. This is when I'd tell them that is likely true but they are the one being tested not the LGBT person.
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Ooh I love the “don’t be a commie” addition. We all know how desperately those snowflake conservatives want to be part of the in-group. That shit will make their heads hurt.
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YouGov surveyed folks who changed their minds about abortion.
Unfortunately, that's not very helpful for convincing people to change their minds. All of these read as "patting myself on the back because now I'm enlightened to the truth." And that's fine, and good, but unhelpful as a debate tool.
Uteran immigrant.
Don't forget "I thought Republicans were the party of states rights? Why are they trying to ban abortion nationally after some states held elections to protect abortion in their state constitution?"
Oh that's a good one, I'll take note.
At the end of the day the revolving door of inconsistent conservative values just exposes their real values: "what I want and what I believe and fuck everyone else"
The great thing about highlighting this stuff is it resonates heavily with swing-voters and fence sitters. It's what helped me move from right to left.
Damn… Alabama of all places. That’s about as Bible Belt as you get.
You would think that conservatives would realize that this is a boulder that they can't keep trying to roll uphill forever, but I suppose they're not exactly known for their forward thinking.
Rant
I want to say something as I'm frustrated with America and stupid text messages.
Please vote and try to avoid voting for GOP, it seems gop only want control and money for the rich. Whereas democrats are at least trying to help the average American.
This is my opinion thanks for letting me stand on my soap box.
End rant.
How do text messages relate?
They don't i was just irritated. I get text messages from gop candidates and don't know why.
Honestly, I wouldn’t do what the other commenter suggested, but I would send back images in response. Most telephony services charge them to receive messages and receiving MMS comes at a slightly higher rate.
Heh, sounds like better advice...
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This is what happens when the dog finally captures the car.
The hero we need.
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