After quitting i feel like im missing out on nothing. I sail the seas if i actually need anything, and it probably wasn't on netflix anyway
I never had Netflix. Or any streaming subscription. I considered it once, several years ago, but I couldn't justify it at prices then, and I sure as shit won't waste my money now. I'll help them save their bandwidth.
Kinda shitty of the chart creator to leave out 2018 and 2021. While the point still stands, it biases it against Netflix.
It’s just purposefully misleading. Not cool, chart maker dude. Not cool.
What happened in those years and why were they omitted? It's odd that they just leave it out with (as far as I could tell from the linked source) no explanation for that.
For a streaming platform to be actually useful it needs to be a almost monopoly like steam. Netflix had a chance but missed the spot, due to the greed of Studios. So it's back to fractured marked until someone comes with a fresh idea of how to distribute video.
Or many service providers competing on price, quality of service and features, not competing on exclusivity like they do now.
Like grocery stores. Imagine if only one chain has the exclusive rights to sell potatoes and another one has rights to pasta. They can ask whatever price they want, because what you gonna do? Go to another store to get your 'taters cheaper? Hah, you'll cry and you'll pay what we ask! (BTW, growing your own potatos and sharing them with your neighbor infringes on our rights and is illegal. We'll sue you to oblivion if we catch you doing it.)
I think a better example is just physical media sales. Retailers generally all carried the same physical stock. You would occasionally see special editions or something that might only be available at certain stores, but it was extremely rare to only be able to buy certain titles at certain retailers.
Or the prime example: movie theaters. We passed regulations to prevent movie theaters from being bought by studios and used as exclusive avenues for the distribution of certain media. You had a movie, you released it to all movie theaters that wanted it, you couldn't just make a deal or buy out Regal or Cinemark, or make your own theater. It ensured a level playing field.
One of the biggest problems with streaming that we have simply refused to acknowledge is that the safeguards necessary to create a healthy market, the safeguards we've used previously with other distribution models, were never put in place. And we're seeing the fallout of that now.
Does not work for media, since media is a good that you need a specific version of. You don't really care what potatoes you buy (simplification) but if you want to watch a specific show, movie or play a game -you can't really subsidize it with another. So exclusivity does not work for potatoes but works for media. We would need a global overhaul of copyright to work this one out.
It totally works for media. Just need a law that says, if a work is published, anyone can distribute it for the same fair licensing fee. That's the way "cover" music works - any cover band can play any other musician's work. Nobody can refuse them that right. Then the venue where they perform pays a flat fee to an agency for the license. This doesn't work great in music, but we could create a better model for streaming. it's not impossible.
No, it doesnt have to be. Look at Spotify vs Apple Music, vs tidal etc. full catalogues at all of them. It’s the business model that needs to change.
TBH Steam feels like a ticking timebomb. At some point Valve is going to get a new shite CEO or something and everyone will go "oh..."
Little unfair to say they "missed" anything when they can't control what studios do with their licenses.
I still see people occasionally complain that Netflix "got rid" of stuff, like the Office. There's a lot of shitty things you can blame Netflix for, but that isn't one of them.
It's also not new. HBO, Showtime, Stars, etc all had rotating on-demand catalogs for years before Netflix, with content appearing briefly before being removed, and no one thought that was odd. I never once heard anyone suggest HBO was shit because Austin Powers or whatever was taken off it. It came with the understanding this content was not permanently available.
Part of it is that people had a bad understanding of what Netflix was, and assumed it would be a permanent replacement for a personal collection. That was always a foolish mindset.
VPNs are much cheaper than Netflix, torrents don’t have ads, it’s always perfect quality, and the content catalog is excellent.
The only difference is when you want to watch in another primary language, for children and so. Torrents are great for popular stuff in a popular language. Not so great otherwise.
Yeah convenience is what still keeps me on subscriptions. With torrents I have to find 2 versions of the movie or with I have luck I can find a dual audio version. Besides that I have to find the subtitles for the movie.. Sometimes is hard to find a synchronized one in the first try..sometimes jellyfin just doesn't show the subtitles right and the text gets out of sync even with the right sub file..too much trouble
Their subscriber rate goes up anyway, so they dont care.
Most of the people are to lazy or dont care enough to vote with their wallet unfortunately
Yep. I used to share my account with my family before Netflix's password sharing crackdown. When they did it, I deleted my account day 1.
My dad and my sister just resubscribed separately. Unfortunately, a net win for them. Efectively +1 user. Just one example, but I'm betting this worked for many more of their users.
Why is 2018 and 2021 skipped over?
Do you really think these years existed?
Granted, my memory isn't great. But I think so. Maybe? I'm not sure any more.
They didn't fit the agenda so they had to be removed.
And their catalog is actually super small now. My wife and I watch a bunch of horror movies, and I think there's only like 20. They try to pad that number by pretending that foreign films are actually in English.
And their recommendation engine sucks.
Netflix used to be famously good at suggesting films. Articles were written about it, and there was even a cash reward for anyone who could contribute to its performance. Then it just turned to shit.
And the funny thing is that it would have helped counteract the shrinking library. Sure, there would be fewer films on the platform, so you'd be less likely to find a specific title, but at least you could select a film Netflix recommended based on your past ratings and be fairly confident you'd enjoy it. Now? Absolutely not.
And they change the pictures around all the time to make you think it's something new, when in fact you've seen it before. And because it's bland as all fuck, you notice this like 45 minutes in.
It isn't just the cover art, they also A/B descriptions. And some of them are so different they're basically lies.
The tags especially are just made up.
I got a picture of Matt Smith on one horror movie about a black couple. He was in it for like 2 minutes. It wasn't terrible, but they're algorithms are basic bitch enough to just go "you white? here's a white man"
Price increase alone isn't enshittification. But the amount and quality of what they offer is dropping at the same time.
And yet, they got 13 million new subscribers last 3 months
Does Netflix still do the "free trial period" and "get free months if a friend sent you" thing?
Are there any numbers about how many unsubscribers to compare to the subscribers? That'd be a juicy number.
Can't enshittificate our torrent clients 🤷
µTorrent would like a word
Who still uses that garbage? qBittorent is the same thing except theres no adware or spyware.
standard stayed the same price for a whole year so i guess that it's due for a price hike
I think I’m going to buy one of those sketchy streaming boxes with thousands of channels.
That or learn how to download and host my own content.
Anyone have any thoughts or ideas?
Edit: just realized what sub I’m in. Guess I better start reading up.
I wouldn't subscribe to Netflix if it saved their families from cancer. Stop fucking increasing your prices while you decrease service.
I get that "enshitification" is the hot new buzzword but cold we please give it a rest. Reading this community you start to think that people can't express that the Internet is not to their liking in any other way.
"Enshitification" does not mean "I don't like it". It is specifically about platforms that start out looking too good to be true and turn to shit when the user base is locked in. The term is generally used for cases where the decline in quality was pre-planned and not due to external factors. Using the same term each time is, in my opinion, an appropriate way to point out just how common this pattern is.
You're in the piracy sub. A large part of the conversation is going to be about the late-stage capitalism that is driving us to piracy.
"Enshitification" means a service getting worse in order to charge their customers extra for a service similar to their previously good one. If we're using the word too much, it's because it's happening too much.
After seeing this post a couple times (which speaks to its relevance) it got me thinking that enshittification (of the world) will definitely continue until our morale improves, as in until we make them stop. Are there any online collectives that work together to stop this tomfoolery?
Do you have a source?
It's included with our cellular plan. If they drop it, I be returning to the high seas, yarr.
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