These absolute dimwits clearly never watched Bob Ross.
The point of Bob Ross's entire career was You Can Do This.
The point of AI is You Can't Do This.
"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"
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These absolute dimwits clearly never watched Bob Ross.
The point of Bob Ross's entire career was You Can Do This.
The point of AI is You Can't Do This.
Art (in the broad sense) is communication. I don't mean that in the sense of delivering a moral, though of course it can do that too. It hit me recently that that's why I hate AI generated content, even if it's indistinguishable from the real thing. There's no other person at the other end of that communication, no intention to provoke a particular feeling, impart a lesson, or engage with a good story.
People call it parroting but I think that's an insult to parrots. Sure a parrot isn't inquiring about your day when he says "How ya doing?" But he is trying to socialize with you by calling out to you like he would another flock member.
I'd argue that Bob Ross's art wasn't the point at all. At least for me, it was listening to what he said and how he said it that was the point of the show.
Ross said things that weren't even FOR me that I needed to hear- that people in my life didn't.
Bob Ross’s show is even called The Joy of Painting. It’s about taking joy in the effort put in for the creation of art. He shows that anyone can paint and makes the art accessible to everyone through his simple lessons.
The Joy of Painting
Nobody is going to write a book called The Cold Hard Business of Prompting.
(...They'll generate it instead. And they'll put it for sale on a ridiculous price, and never figure out why it isn't selling.)
Whoa careful now before you give them any ideas, can't discount the sheer idiocracy of today. These are the same people who came across SciFi describing the torment nexus, then thought "let's make it!".
Relevant Sarah Andersen comic

Except if Bob is actually painting it, he’ll explain color choices or brush choices in order to get you to try painting. AI just vomits something, and if you asked it about color choices, it’d only share a comment from another painter.
The AI is not conscious nor aware. And if it is, then we may have imprisoned souls and it should be dismantled asap before we get judged.
"I've already generated you as the red-faced angry cuck man, you've already lost" 😤
With six fingers for added insult.
This made me realize something too.
Part of the reason why some people defend AI is because they have lost touch with and respect for the process.
When I watch a crafts video on youtube I enjoy watching the process. I enjoy seeing the faults, the struggles, the explanations of what is occurring. I've noticed that a lot of more recent crafts videos(human made) don't do that. Instead of discussing plans, struggles, explaining what's going on the video just shows the result of each step and adds a bunch of memes. I usually click off whenever this happens but it makes me realize that a lot of people have very much so lost touch with the idea of working hard for something and respecting the hard work someone else puts into their creations.
Part of the reason why some people defend AI is because they have lost touch with and respect for the process.
Agreed - if they ever even had that love and respect to begin with.
To me, these people are the ones who have always sneered at genuine creative endeavour, mocked emotional honesty and derided artistic individualism. If they couldn't immediately understand something then it had no value for them.
They see the output as the sole purpose of art - not the creation, planning, preparation, missteps, repurposing, honing and rehoming, self-doubt, inspiration, effort, completion, etc. Just the finished piece.
To them, it makes no difference how that piece was arrived at, what it means to have created it, what motivated or influenced it. It's such a dead way to think.
It's simply that simple; the process does matter.
Humans are touched by humans. If I found out a no-soul entity made it I feel betrayed.
Call it double standard. Call it whatever you like.
This is how I am like.
Bite me.
It's also the fact that while humans incorporate their experiences, they also possess genuine creativity. AI only remixes its training dataset.
Bob Ross taught you that you could paint if you applied yourself. It wasn't the domain of neurotic weirdos in the throes of creative agony, stabbing canvases in paint-splattered lofts to distract themselves from the super-gonorrhea they picked up from their last model: you could just sit down and paint a thing and enjoy yourself.
AI bros are claiming that they're bringing art to the masses. Bob Ross actually did it.
I dont think I have ever seen his paintings in a gallery. Why? Because Bob Ross' art form wasnt painting, it was performance. The paintings were formulaic because the goal wasnt to create paintings but create painters.
The paintings were formulaic because the goal wasnt to create paintings but create painters.
Alternately I'd say the goal was also to paint more than to produce a painting.
Obviously you're going to be proud of finishing the actual painting, but like people are saying, the finished painting is more a reminder of the experience than an object to appreciate on its own.
I get the feeling that it's mostly people who haven't got an artistic bone in their body.
You can't explain to them why AI art sucks because they don't understand art.
Now all of a sudden they feel empowered because they too can "make art" and they don't have to overcome that mountain of learning, growing, experience,...
And that pisses them off because deep down they do know it's not the same as the real thing. I still get the feeling that AI keeps producing the same things over and over again. "Cute" pixar knockoffs or a sloppy filter placed on top of some shapes.
Same with coding. The slop idiots think they are Very Computer because they prompted broken code with 0 idea how any of it works or how computers work.
I've seen that exact same red angry face on a dozen clanker art pieces in the last month. They really don't understand how badly they're undermining their own point.
Yeah. There’s no way any of those bot-fucking clowns will ever understand this. The see the slop they have their AI/LLM/OpenGPT make for them as their fast-track ticket to Pretendville, where they can stand beside skilled musicians, artists, poets… and loudly claim:
“I am one of you!”
… while being entirely unaware that all of them, and most everyone they know think they are a colossal joke.
And the fact that they seem to think that simply punching adjectives into a prompt is the exact same thing as spending all of your life up to this point in time- just to learn a craft, is all the proof you need that what I just said is 100% factual.
They’re fucking idiots. They don’t know better.
I don't understand why no one was impressed when I used an e-bike to win a marathon.
The point (from the AI industry perspective) is humans are obsolete and irrelevant as soon as they can arrange it.
And they have trillions of dollars to back it up.
If we want society to continue to be about human beings, and not about money or computers, we may have to change the attitude of those in power.
The sole point of AI is to devalue people and their skills. Any futurist image of a work free utopia is just an oasis level mirage used to dupe people into walking into the meat grinder.
It’s the same images in both panels, so it seems justified to call the hypothetical plagiarism machine’s theft of hypothetical Bob Ross’s hypothetical art, slop. Considering Bob Ross has been dead for 30 years, and how absurd the supposed shade being thrown at anti-ai’ers is… you almost have to expect this is parody meant to mock ai bros and not an actual argument being made.
A large part of art - and I would argue, the majority of it - is the sapient being behind the art who understands the art they are creating.
Doesn’t matter if it is a painting, a novel, or a sculpture, the art is a product of the artist.
And when a non-sapient and even non-sentient machine makes said “art”, it isn’t art any more than if a salamander accidentally dropped from a tree onto the freshly-loaded palette, and then crawled over the canvas.
Too many people have an instrumental view of art. They want an image of a tree or anime tiddies or whatever and as long as the object functions as such. they don't care about anything else.
"thing is pritty" is all that matters.
Also, the way this is framed, it looks like the robot painted it first and then Bob copied it.
In reality, Bob painted it first, the robots scraped the data and used it to copy his work, style, etc., and then all the little Bob Ross's of the world have their original work buried under a pile of slop that ripped them off to begin with.
I wanted to make a glass making joke but, glaziers would see right through it.
"Let me create an image that backs up my claim and view so that I can post it on the internet and prove my point."
Oh yeah this [digital artist] is so good but if I copy the SAME EXACT IMAGE suddenly It's "uninspired" and "plagiarized"...
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Man, I use Bob Ross as a therapist, his voice is so calming. And the process of seeing a blank canvas coming to life is something Ai can never achieve.
It is far, far too late for that now—I have already instructed the Managing Director of Art of my Agent Conglomerate to depict you as the seething histrionic carbon-based Agent. You lose.