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[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Can someone please explain to me what 4 has to do with the PHP security thingymajiger lol

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's a different thingymajigger.

One of the orgs that does TLS infrastructure was found to have used 4, a number from Sesame Street, as a private key on a TLS cert that was used to sign other certs.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just to add. Those private keys are a 85 to 170 digits random number.

A very central company whose security the entire internet depends on picked 00000000000....0000004.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I can’t tell if it’s like, completely awful or kind of awesome. I mean, no one brute-forces private key space one bit at a time, do they?

Hey America’s nuclear launch code was eight zeros (“00000000”) at some point in the 1960s; technically we’ve survived worse

[–] Tehhund@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I originally thought nobody would try brute forcing simple keys like this, but then the person who found the vulnerability did it so I bet other people have done it. It's less "gee hope this works" and more "If someone screwed up there key generation this might work," and screwing up key generation is a known problem. Rare, but it does happen as this case demonstrates.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Almost assuredly someone is brute forcing all single-byte keys. In fact the private key equal to 4 is a single-bit, or "one hot" key, so an attacker could have found it by brute-forcing 384 different keys 😂

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine a big stamp. Anything stamped with it, the internet in general trusts. Because we all trust that nobody knows how to stamp things like that big stamp. Except instead of a literal stamp, it's a secret combination of numbers and letters that works like a password. It now turns out that this secret combination of numbers and letters was just the number 4.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago

My favourite analogy on this is that they had a master key with 398 slots for bumps, and they decided to only use one notch/bump for the whole thing.

You can’t open that with most regular keys, but if you try the most basic of picking you’ll find it pretty quick.

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And here I am, thinking about bits of entropy for my toy project's API key.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

sigh This isn't going away anytime soon, is it? :)

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It's gonna be around 4 the 4seeable future.

[–] EpeeGnome@feddit.online 3 points 1 day ago

I mean, I assume it had the correct number of bits in it, it's just that all but the 3rd least significant bit were all 0s.