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[-] Veedem@lemmy.world 153 points 10 months ago

Dallas County Sheriff Adam Infante said that school had not yet started when the shooting began.

“Luckily, so there were very few students and faculty in the building, which I think contributed to a good outcome in that sense,” he said at a news briefing.

Maybe it’s a bad selected quote but using the phrase “good outcome” because only 3 people were shot in a school is insane, to me.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 94 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This one won't even make the cut as a mass shooting because not enough people were injured.

Way to go America.

Update: five injured, one killed. It counts as a mass shooting now.

[-] ThePantser@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

Which is why we need to track school shootings in it's own category.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

Then people will complain that an accidental discharge in the school parking lot gets lumped in with this, or that mass shootings at schools get double counted because they're mass shootings and school shootings, or some other nonsense to avoid admitting that there's a problem.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

I really don't understand their "gang killings don't count as mass killings" argument. Like somehow those are different because gangs?

[-] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The consensus is that people don’t care about gang members when it’s inter-gang violence. Aside from the obvious, the biggest issue with that stance is that more often than not it’s some 6 yr old bystander who’s shot through the wall of their house. Disgusting.

*edit fixed autocorrect

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I feel like gang shootings would be a little more adversarial. Basically two groups with animosity towards the other coming to a head and the aggressor could be from either side. School shootings and other mass shootings are more vengeful and one sided.

That's my take at least. Not that the loss of life isn't tragic all the same.

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[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

I'm generally very anti-gun, but I can see the rationale behind separating gang killings. Just like separating out familicide from mass shootings where a person shoots their three kids, their wife, then themself. Not a mass shooting in the sense that the general public was at risk of being a target.

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[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

Killed you mean, you could have 400 injured, it's not a mass shooting if there is less than four death.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Four deaths would make it a mass killing. People being hit with bullets fired from a gun is a shooting even if they don't die.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Wait until the government redefines the number high so the rates will go down.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago

Mission accomplished!

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

That noob never even went to a firing range to properly train to shoot kids. An embarrassment for the nation, really.

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah, but also when you do that you got to get the smaller targets all set up and people always want to small talk about what school you are shooting and why, and someone always ends up bringing up Jews...

I can see why you wouldn't even bother going to the range to practice anymore. Such a hassle.

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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago

I wonder when we are going to have an awkward moment when two school shooters show up at the same time. "Oh you are also here to murder the 6 year olds during nap time?"

[-] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

"nah I'm here for the 10 year olds, they run faster and make for better sport, anyway happy hunting!"

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago

Police: "Don't worry, we'll wait until y'all are done in there. Our turn's next, though!"

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

"awkward. One of us is going to have to change dates"

[-] qwertyWarlord@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago

Totally unpreventable. We've tried nothing and we're out of ideas. Investigators looking at motives (like it matters). Suspect had a troubled past, legally bought weapons. #[insert city name] strong. Thoughts and prayers. Like and subscribe. See you at the next one.

[-] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

If only there were good students with guns this could have been prevented

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

If only the killer didn't want to kill people.

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[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

Just the unfortunate cost of securing people's right to commit mass murder

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 10 months ago

pointing out the problem with gun violence in america is anti semitic - conservatives, probably

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[-] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 25 points 10 months ago

You guys need some new traditions over there.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago
[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 31 points 10 months ago

Cut the year some slack. Today was the first day of school. It's hard to have a school shooting when school's out.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

So what you're saying is it only took less than a day.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

Correct. In fact, it seems that the casually numbers are low because shooter was early.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

That's where they went wrong. Always show up fashionably late when you want to attempt mass murder.

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[-] WhyYesZoidberg@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I wonder when american mass shootings will stop being front page news. Treated more like a car crash or something. minor local news. The US as a country has obviously decided that this is acceptable and i assume it should be treated as such.

As an outsider it’s fucking bizarre to witness.

[-] harmsy@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

No, Republican politicians and a minority of voters have decided it's acceptable, and because of our convoluted and poorly designed political system, the rest of us are forced to put up with it.

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[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 6 points 10 months ago

Oh it's already covered in the same breath as the real housewives drama from my SO. It's barely cared about. I don't think anyone actually even feels sad about anymore except for some of the families involved. Just another day in the life of the greatest dream.

Anger has replaced any sense of sadness and people are running out of anger too. Apathy. Self indulgent apathy is all we will have left. And fear that someone might take away their nice things. A country of children parading as adults as children die... How could you not look at it and weep.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Like the school shooting dinner table discussion in South Park. Spoilers -- Stan's mom flips out over the local school shooting, and Stan's dad asks her if she's overreacting because she's on her period.

I'd link it, but I'm on mobile.

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[-] HipHoboHarold@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I feel like it's barely front page news as it is. Like this is the only thing I'm seeing about this shooting. Last night on TikTok I found out about a shooting at a bar, what's the deadliest shooting in Maine to date. Happened on Oct 25th. I found out about it yesterday. 18 people killed, 13 injured. Still took me that long to see anything about it. Back when the Sandy Hook hooting happened, it was all over in minutes, and we didn't stop hearing about it for months. Now we might not hear about it at all.

https://wgme.com/news/local/maines-deadliest-mass-shooting-propels-homicides-to-new-high-in-the-state-gun-violence-schemengees-bar-and-grille-sparetime-recreationjust-in-time-recreation-crime-murder

[-] quindraco@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

For the curious, I looked it up. The reason he had access to a 6th grader to shoot in a High School is that it and the Middle School are really one big building in this case - so while it was a High School, it was also a Middle School.

This article lists a possible motive - years of bullying with the school admin refusing to do anything about it. I never did understand why none of my public schools ever did anything about my bullies. As an adult, if any of them tried it I'd call the police and use pepper spray - both banned actions in my schools.

[-] Rubanski@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Calling the police is a banned action??

[-] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Principals avoid taking actions that will put their campus in a negative light. They will call the police only when the situation cannot be hidden from the public such as a gun, assault with a weapon, or criminal trespassing. Teachers can only enforce the policies that the admin are willing to enforce. They're also discouraged from pressing charges under that of losing their job.

[-] endhits@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

American schools are prisons first, education centers second.

[-] ExLisper@linux.community 4 points 10 months ago

Of course, they would just shoot people.

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[-] Gazumi@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Easy access to arms WITHOUT rigour, training and monitoring leads to savage atrocities. Some clowns will highlight European countries with a similar gun ownership rate, but then fail to understand why we don't have those same atrocities.

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

I can save a pro-gun cultist the effort and just fill in this comment chain in advance:

Cultist: "Shall not be infringed"

Sane people: "Well regulated"

Cultist: "Well regulated doesn't mean subjected to regulations like background checks and not hitting your wife, it means well-functioning, like a watch

Sane people: "It's not that either. Your militia has no training or physical fitness standards, may never had to demonstrate safe and competent handling of their weapon and has an open contempt for the chain of command"

Cultist: "No but its a mental health problem"

Sane people: "Okay, sounds like gun owners should be have to undergo a mandatory mental health assessment before buying guns then"

Cultist: "If you try and make me prove I'm not a dangerous extremist I'll kill you".

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[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago

Nothing to see here but another NRA Freedom Celebration™, folks. Move along!

[-] Schmuppes@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Winter break, school shooting break. Of course both will recommence at the same time over there.

[-] Rusticus@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Onion article incoming with headline for the thousandth time

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[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Merry Christmas and a happy new year, here's your bullet ... CATCH!

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

American schools don’t have a worse bullying problem than schools in other countries, according to this article. Other countries have at least 4X fewer gun ownership rate, article. I think the U.S. really needs better gun control, while maintaining the right to bear arms.

[-] VeryVito@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Unless they’re apologizing for their failures or resigning in shame, why even include comments from politicians like Grassley and Nunn? They’ve already told us they’re not interested or involved in such matters.

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