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[–] TuringCompleteSocialist@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Its called "killing the entire middle class" and its way more profitable that all that stuff you mentioned.

[–] untorquer@quokk.au 1 points 25 minutes ago

Ooh i think I've heard it called "killing the lower class" too. You have to get past the "scapegoat immigrants" part though.

[–] JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 hours ago

The same reason that self-driving cars don't work very well. Shut us way more complicated than people realize because they do it all the time and don't think about the nuances.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Because the right hates intellectuals. They hate us because we're more often on the side of the truth than their childish delusions. So they built a tool that promises it to them.

And now they want us broken, both in the mind and body, so they can amuse themselves with out suffering. Literally all the right wing media grifters who previously talked about how entertainment must be gatekept from women and minorities are celebrating that "art is no longer gatekept".

But still, all they can get is slop with the AI. Don't fool yourself with any of the game projects, or even that Windows XP music video that got popular with the Bluesky developers, it's still unable to create anything meaningful, or worthy to be remembered.

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

This week's Tom Scott episode on Nebula* is interesting on this subject.

Long story short: folk from a university in Essex are working on creating a robot that can pick strawberries, but it (obviously) turns out that it's waaaay more complex than people think. There are untold different variables that humans just work around without having to think about them, like whether there are fruit inside the plant, obscured from view. A robot has to be programmed to be able to figure shit like that out.

Sure, it could easily run along the line just grabbing everything, but the plants in enormous growhouses can yield fruit for six months a year, so they need to be treated carefully. _ *it'll be on YouTube next week

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 3 hours ago

Well because robots need bodies

[–] myyass@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Have you seen the modern John Deere farming systems? It's likely going to go from the Interstellar intro to the plot of Ghost In the Shell 3. As in Fully automated farming; of that's vulnerable to getting hacked and becoming disease ridden.

I don't have against vegans, but I think it's important to have diversity since disasters have happened in the past. Like it or not, but animals are insurance against disasters that can happen to plants. Why do you think corn and soybeans have been modified so much?

There is no amount of watering plants in this current drought that will let me grow anything, everything I planted this year is dead. I have to adapt and create shaded and sealed greenhouse tents and then that's not covering potential flooding from rain as we've seen this year.

I'm just guessing, but I don't think it's too far away of having completely automated systems run farms. And I hate to say it but maybe it might be for the best in this situation seeing as I basically got sick from eating someone's shit on lettuce.

[–] MareOfNights@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Are we still using pickaxes to mine??? We have Robots assisting with manual labor since the car. Modern factories rely on tons of neural networks and machine-vision. This is silly.

[–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yup, can confirm firsthand, having lookied at mines in Zambia in 2022, 17 year olds were still using pickaxes. While a lot of modern world is doing machine assisted mining. Pickaxes aren't gone gone.

[–] MareOfNights@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 16 minutes ago

I mean, kind of. They do use outdated heavy machinery, maybe some pickaxes to help the machines, but amount you can mine manually like that i basically pointless at this point. The bigger problem are the working conditions there in general. Time for some supply chain regulation.

[–] redballooon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Maybe once they can properly run and stop running, and do more than just that one round about kick, then they can be sent off to the mines.

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Because LLMs, although marketed as a productivity increasing tool, are fundamentally investment vehicles. It's a lot easier to market LLMs that can beat the Turing test than physical robots which are really hard to manufacture and would require the development of thousands of new technologies.

[–] MolochHorridus@piefed.social 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Because we don’t have AI. We have algorithms putting words after another or pixels next to each other.

Better question is why we don’t use robots with specific algorithms to do those kinds of tasks.

We could if we wanted to. Not necessarily right now, but we’re pretty damn close. If all the damn billions we pour into the data centers putting words and pixels into order went into robotics, we’d have a world where no one had to get their hands dirty or risk an injury at work.

That would also make billionaires billionaires. But that would not stomp the regular folk down, and that’s the catch.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

Purely information based tasks have mountains of training material. Physical world interactions, less so and harder to instrument.

Driving is one of the more favorable scenarios, vision and hearing are the only sensory inputs and the only operation is a wheel and two pedals. Easy to instrument and passively capture millions and millions of miles worth of human driving to imitate.

But in other tasks, people are largely not instrumented.. Meta hopes everyone will wear their AI glasses which could boost passive data capture, but even then they are not capturing sense of touch and human dexterity. Some are paying people to try to tele operate machines, but that frequently goes embarrassingly badly because it is really hard for a person to navigate things without touch.

If you put on mittens and a task becomes impossible, well you still have way more to work with than the models can access training data for.

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Could be because of money, but most likely it's just that they never develop the thought because they do not give a fuck about the conditions of humans in slavery.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 5 points 8 hours ago

Because the 'menial' labor often has to be done right or something goes terribly wrong, it's art and poetry that AI can be allowed to fuck up without serious consequences.

[–] I_Jedi@lemmy.today 32 points 12 hours ago

You know the idea guy, who doesn't want to do the actual work? But takes full credit when it's done? AI is that guy's best friend.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 17 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Tbh, I figure there are robots for all that, they just aren't LLMs and usually cost more than what folks are asking for the same job in some cases.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately there kinda.... aren't. Robots to handle those tasks, that is. There absolutely can be, we just haven't built them because the C-Suite has been terrified since 2011, that the rest of us would realize they are as useless as Forbes reported that year.

The main reason they want to take over automation of mental tasks is that we already can, fairly easily, automate single manual tasks. They have been able to automate away 99% of middle management and the C-Suite since 2011, when an algorithm that had been running for two years proved to be correct 99% of the time, when the human executives turned out to be correct in their conclusions only 68% of the time. They want the mental tasks automated so that no one realizes that they are just stealing everything they can from us, because they realized they are replaceable.

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 2 points 7 hours ago

Can you share the source? I missed it at the time and would love to read it

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 hours ago

Because it takes actual engineering skill to make a robot that can (say) mine for minerals without destroying itself or the things it is looking for. Also because subjugation of people seems to be a fetish for some of these people. For example, sugarcane growers refused automation for years despite the high incidence of serious injuries for cane cutters who used machetes to cut the cane.

[–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 6 points 9 hours ago

Art and poetry are just 0s and 1s. Generative AI takes 0s and 1s as input and produces 0s and 1s as output. It's a math problem. Mining ore is a physical task. Getting a robot to perform a physical task is complicated because the computer needs to track all kinds of things we do naturally.

You can close your eyes and touch the tip of your nose because you have proprioception. A robot doesn't have that. It needs some kind of way to determine where parts of it are in 3D space. Do you put GPS on those parts? LIDAR? RFID tags? The more sensors you add, the more expensive the robot becomes. The less sensors you have, the more guesswork is being done in the calculations, and the more likely it will fail at the task. Either you have a robot the can do the work autonomously, but costs more than a human labourer, or you have a cheap robot that needs the constant supervision of a human labourer.

Automation is less autonomous robot and more machine that has been purpose built to do one hyper specific thing and I think it'll be like that for a while. Sarah Davis Baker has a great video on the topic of the robot body and the difficulties of reducing reality to a stream of sensor data.

[–] Pratai@piefed.ca 8 points 10 hours ago

Because the fucking dipshits that use it are too stupid to realize they’ve been lied to.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Humanity is a lost project. Too greedy, too selfish, too cruel. We will eradicate ourselves.

[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 5 points 10 hours ago

Nothing the universe will miss i guess.

[–] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

As someone with a job that AI could replace: it's because it's nonsense and isn't important. We automated every job a robot could do a long time ago, so now the facade is falling and the bullshit jobs that don't need to exist can be done by shitty robots because the job was also done by shitty humans. Also humans might be cheaper than robots?

[–] weps@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago

I don't ask AI to do my poetry or art.

Why do you do it? It's not making your art and poetry by itself.