How do American get this wrong? Half the cheese in Europe is from unpasteurised milk.
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The EU has like 3x as many Listeria cases per capita compared to the US because like half the cheese is unpasteurized. The US does have a lot more E. coli across many vectors so there's a few factors but gutting regulatory bodies has obviously been making things worse.
Not just cheese we have yoghurt that are unpasteurised too.
We let the states come up with the rules. Instead of the fed mandating best practices, they just recommend pasteurization. Europe has stricter testing and hygiene rules. IIRC, there's not a significant difference in people getting sick in between the two.
That said, The current administration gutted the hell out of the food safety departments and started getting some real hell over it, so they're now they're 'finding' a new thing to recall every week. It's WAY too frequent for it to be real every time. edit: that said this one is very likely real
I worry about the health and safety of you guys across the pond. Not only is your government rolling back mandatory vaccinces , they are also turning food into a russian roulette.
Most of our damage is self-inflicted. The vast majority avoid raw milk products and still get the vaccines anyway. The crew that doesn't are mostly made up of the science deniers who won't believe anything is real until it's happening to them. So it's truth by Darwin with truly unfortunate collateral damage of people who can't medically get the vaccines.
The food roulette has taken some lives. Perhaps the best outlook we can have on that is those who were ok with food safety being dismantled now might consider it was there for a good purpose and was not doge worthy.
The pursuit of profits above all else, presumably. Or perhaps just plain old human error.
Well let's hope they can fix it.
Regulations exist because there was a problem being ignored. Companies still love ignoring problems so this shit keeps happening.
Why don't raw milk people just go lick the ground in the milking shed, since it's pretty much equivalent and it would be a lot quicker.
I know you are joking but based on the response from COVID, I think you could turn licking a dairy floor into a buisness.
If the trumplet does not want people to lick the floors of dairy farms, who mind to disagree. Each to the round.
Sorry, what? People are drinking unpasteurised milk ?
Yeah they're the same idiots that refused to get a vaccine for a potentially deadly disease. Go figure.
Just a moment.. I'm getting a truckload of unpasteurised warm milk delivered to destiny church.
Yes lol it's a big thing in NZ too amongst crunchy conspiracy types
More reasons to continue boycotting American goods in Canada.
Terrifying part of this is if recalls get bad enough, Trump will simply order they stop recalls and telling us they is a problem at all.
It's almost like Louis Pasteur was on to something
Surprise, surprise, surprise!
No problem. The owner will donate some money to Trumps pocket, and the FDA will start looking elsewhere.
I've never understood the attraction of raw milk. I am a big fan of pasteurization.
My sister buys her milk fresh from a local farmer. I really don't understand why she would do that. Milk is already gross by design, but it's not like she takes particular good care of her milk. It's setimes out longer than i would be comfortable and also open... Idk.
You mean a bacteria found in the feces of nearly half the population of dairy cattle contaminated REAL milk? Like, I mean the udders are several inches off the ground and cows notoriously never lay down, so where could this come from?
Must be big Pasteurizer sabotaging the pure REAL milk products and keeping the sheeple from consuming the REAL milk products the lord has given us. They want us weak and feeble and only untouched milk straight from the udder can grace my temple of a body. No Satan, not today! You will not take my REAL milk from me!
Oh hey, I seemed to have dropped something ヽ(´ー｀) /s
they poop where they eat, i think thier UDDERS get dirty from thier own feces though, even ifs not directly touching, the "juices' could trickle to the udders.
OK so you have never seen a cow poo before.
The "material" comes out in a high pressure jet. It is a kinda thick paste, it will splash because cows are quite tall.
The splash from their own stream may contaminate the udders, but they will often get splashed or just shat on from another cow.
They're also not very choosy about where they step, so they'll just kick poo around all day for a nice even coating.
It is almost like raw milk is not a good idea.
You shouldn't be allowed to sell "raw" cheese. It's unsafe.
The people who did so should face charges analogous to, I don't know, attempting to poison a bunch of people. Fucking nail them to the wall.
Cheese as a method to make milk safe to consume predates pasteurization. It's not the same risk profile as unpasteurized milk.
There's a solid chance you've eaten cheese make with unpasteurized milk and not known it. As far as I'm aware, there aren't labeling requirements around it in the US or Europe. Whether or not that's sensible, I don't know, but it might give you a better idea of how dangerous governments think this cheese is.
I don't know if it's required (I would guess it is) but in France at least cheese is labelled depending on whether it was made from raw or pasteurised/cooked milk (fromage à pâte 'crue' or 'cuite' respectively). Many of the most common cheeses (eg camembert) are made from raw milk and people aren't getting sick all the time, but pregnant people are recommended not to eat those.
It can be relatively safe if the producers are held to high hygiene standards. The aging process kills most harmful microbes. If you're pregnant, though, you should probably avoid cheese from raw milk unless it's been heated.
And you can pry my boerenkaas from my cold dead hands!
Europe about to be so mad at you.
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Why are they hospitalizing these people and investigating the milk? Isn't this what they wanted?
you can put a brand on something illegal?
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