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[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wasn't aware other countries played 5 clicks to Hitler as well.

[–] Manalith@midwest.social 6 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Not sure where you're at but I do this frequently. Also do an IMDb pick an actor and a movie and see how quickly you can get that movie by navigating cast lists and credits I.e Will Smith > Ad Astra

Will Smith > Men in Black > Tommy Lee Jones > Ad Astra. That's a simple one, but you get the idea.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 21 hours ago

Germany. And to be honest, it might be easier over here.

[–] heliotrope@slrpnk.net 95 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

EDIT: She's a holocaust denier, which I didn't know. Guess she is a nazi after all!

Here's the link (from Political views of J. K. Rowling):

She is very much a TERF, an acephobe, kinda racist (just look at her character names), and therefore quite a horrible person; ~~but, while it wouldn't surprise me if she was, she is not a nazi.~~

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 22 hours ago

Acephobe??? I was unaware. Good to know I'm hated double.

[–] QueenHawlSera@piefed.social 42 points 1 day ago (20 children)

She is however a holocaust denier

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Source?

I have seen zero credible sources for this specific claim of Holocaust denial. The closest I've found is that she argued that trans people weren't the first group targeted by the Nazis. (Not denying that they were targeted. Just disputing that they were first.) That's not the same as "Holocaust denial."

I already know she's a bad person who uses her celebrity to spread hate and spends her time and money trying to further oppress some of the most marginalized people in the world. We can dislike her for those very real reasons without spreading false stories about her.

[–] arudesalad@piefed.ca 6 points 16 hours ago

She didn't argue that trans people weren't the first group targeted, she argured that trans people weren't targeted at all/it doesn't matter that they were (however you want to read into the tweet linked in the article).

https://forward.com/culture/592580/j-k-rowling-holocaust-denial-trans/

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)
[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

jk rowling is definitely the type of person who will argue the holocaust didn't exist with george takei, who was literally in concentration camps during ww2.

[–] SalmiakDragon@feddit.nu 7 points 1 day ago

I'm not following the logic here. I mean, he was in American concentration camps - not sure how that's relevant to claims about what the Nazis did. I know he's right, but it's not like he was there or anything.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Okay but, let’s be fair, not knowing the Nazis burned books on trans healthcare and research is not the same as denying the holocaust.

I’m not saying she hasn’t denied the holocaust. I’m just saying this isn’t an example of that.

[–] tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Shes denying part of the holocaust. Whether that be from ignorance or otherwise idk and idc. Denying part of the holocaust is definitionally holocaust denial. Thats litterally the defining trait of the word

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Denying part of the holocaust is definitionally holocaust denial.

It really isn’t “definitionally” Holocaust denial. “Holocaust denial” as a linguist concept as understood by most people has nothing at all to do with denying the burning of trans literature.

[–] tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

"Deniers assert that the Holocaust is a fabrication or exaggeration,^[3][4][5]^making one or more of the following false claims:"

and then an incomplete list of holocaust denialist claims. Thats from your own link

J K Rowling is claiming the holocaust is exaggereted in them tweets, therefore: denying part of the holocaust as defined by the above.

and holocaust denial is an academic term with a pretty precise definition, as much as it is a colloqial one.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 16 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

There's also a difference between not knowing something and implying that something is a lie (and sending that implication out to her millions of Twitter followers).

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 2 points 19 hours ago

Oh absolutely, I agree 100%. All I’m saying is that this wasn’t an example of holocaust denial. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t ignorant and shitty.

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[–] lemdeggity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't see anything about holocaust denial in your link. There's a 2018 article discussing parallels between her work and the real holocaust but it doesn't claim she's a denier. I don't really care for Rowling but I also don't like misinformation. If there is some evidence can you please share it?

[–] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)
[–] treesapx@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Imagine being so blinded by bigotry that you think that transgender people, of all the fucking groups, were the one group that nazis were totally cool with.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I think she just doesn't believe trans identity is a real thing and that it wasn't yet "invented" in the 1930s.
Not knowing what the fuck they're talking about is kind of a staple of transphobes.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

In her defense for some reason there just aren't many records of us in 1940s Germany /s

In case anyone's unaware, that famous photo of nazis burning books, yeah those are records of trans people among other texts on queer sexology

[–] lemdeggity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Thanks for the source although I think that's quite specific. It seems mostly about her being ignorant and doubling down on her war against trans people rather than a blanket denial of the holocaust which the term "holocaust denier" conjures

Your article frames it this way:

While Rowling has not denied the Holocaust itself happened, she is accused of engaging in a form of Holocaust denial for questioning the persecution of trans people under the Nazi regime, a fact which has been well documented

I'm not denying she's a cunt but I think it's important to be precise with these sorts of allegations.

[–] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 4 points 20 hours ago

I think that's a pretty accurate assessment. I personally haven't seen any evidence that she's anti-Semitic and that is the center of Holocaust denialism. I don't think her claims aren't driven by conspiracy theories. She just has a million Yes Men who encourage her anti-trans positions and it just feels right to her

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[–] hopesfall@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly, calling everyone a nazi just feeds into the right's narrative of "oh they call everyone a nazi, ignore them".

I'm not defending anyone, especially not J.K. Rowling, but this isn't helping our cause, quite the contrary actually.

[–] tazeycrazy@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago

It's a bit like Kleenex and velcro. They lose there trademark the more people that get groups with Naziism. Unfortunately no one is protecting the nazi brand.

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[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago

Wow, I didn't know about either, Wikipedia speedruns or JKR's Holocaust denialism. Thanks, OP.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I get the joke, but You can get from anything to Hitler 4 clicks. Every article has a country > history > WW2 > Hitler.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 day ago

Nah, that's irrelevant. OP didn't get to Naziism via some broad category like that, they got there directly through JKR

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 39 points 1 day ago

But not 3 clicks.

[–] N0tTr0xy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 55 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anything (Jay Z song) > Jay Z > Kanye West > Nazism

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lmao I thought you were guessing/joking until I checked

[–] N0tTr0xy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 21 hours ago

Haha awesome

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[–] pumpupthejam@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago

Oh now do Morrissey

This is a dope game

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