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[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 87 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I'm pretty sure that if he publicly says he's going to disobey orders, that's grounds for removal, even under a sane president. (Although a sane president might not choose to remove him)

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is almost certainly why he won't answer the question either way. If he says that he wouldn't, Trump would just fire him and replace him with someone that says they would privately, away from any public scrutiny at all.

It would be a net negative for everyone other than fascists.

[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 month ago

It’s a pointless question. If he answers no truthfully he gets fired. If he lies and says ‘yes’ to keep his job we get undue anxiety when there already enough of that going around from memes and trade wars.

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[–] grte@lemmy.ca 69 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Have they said no to any of the USA's other illegal invasions? Don't count on the bravery of Americans who tell you they would resist. Count on drones.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 18 points 1 month ago

The military doesn't promote officers for refusing orders.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If the USA invades, the white house gets burned down again and Trump gets ICC arrested.

[–] codydodd@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (22 children)

Jokes aside its quite possible. Ukrainian partnerships with canada on domestic drone production, the US would burn perpetually if they dared. They are projecting a weak canada to save face, but they dare not mistaken canadian politeness for weakness. There is a reason Trump says we are the hardest do deal with of any country. Because we are done putting up with their shit. To be Canadian means to not be Amerikkkan.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The US is the only country to have used nukes in war

[–] lemmyng@piefed.ca 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Remember the wildfires earlier this year? The US would irradiate themselves if they nuked Canada. Sure, Trump might try to piss into the wind, but the rest are way too selfish to let him.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Depends how they use the nuke. Airbursts are pretty clean

Vapourising/torching cities would be an unlawful order, though. And still far fetched; they want to own us, not kill us all.

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[–] RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago

Don't threaten us with a good time

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[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What a stupid ragebait headline. Of course a geneneral is not going to even suggest they would disobey a hypothetical lawful order. Why would someone end their career for some journalists gocha question?

Says nothing about his private thoughts or what he would actually do. Zero information value.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (18 children)

How is that a lawful order??

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How is bombing a wedding a lawful order?

The military is trained to be mindless sychophants.

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[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's technically not illegal to invade another country unprovoked. It's illegal to do war crimes though. You can invade a country and annex it without committing warcrimes.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 6 points 1 month ago

It isn't, but Congress is pretending it is which is the same thing.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No matter what he says he would. You don't become a General by refusing orders.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago

And even if he would refuse he'd be removed from command and something willing to obey would replace him.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago

I'm not sure actually, because had he said he wouldn't, they probably would have just discharged him.

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[–] rozodru@piefed.world 22 points 1 month ago (22 children)

If the US tried it Canada would make Vietnam, Afghanistan, etc look like a casual sunday stroll in the park. If the US couldn't handle Guerrilla warfare against people who DON'T look like them, imagine how well they'll do against people that do. And the further north they got the more fucked they'd be. Ever been in a fight with a pissed off Indigenous individual? try it, see how far you get. Not only that you got all the dudes living in the bush with rifles and god knows what else.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

People who look like them, sound like them and know all the same pop culture, including supposedly local stuff like news anchors.

There's not many shibboleths they could use, and usually they pick a really obvious one. I pledge...

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

And the further north they got the more fucked they’d be

Doesn't like 90% of Canada's population live within 100 km of the border? Not much reason to even go that far north unfortunately

[–] Medic8eme@piefed.ca 14 points 1 month ago (5 children)

No need to take the minerals, oil and water that are abundant in those northern places?

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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

That means there's all the more wilderness area to retreat and disappear into.

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Regardless that at least 70% of Americans would join the Canadians

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[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 month ago
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The reporter pointed out that Paparo did not answer the question. The U.S. admiral said he was dismissing the issue, adding: “Would you ask me please also what my attack plans are for the Martians?”

The reporter replied: “You belittle it and I don’t think that’s the right approach at all. This is a serious question about a serious issue.”

A Nanos poll taken in February found that three in five Canadians are concerned about the U.S. being a potential threat to Canadian sovereignty. A majority also support making it illegal for Canadians to serve in the U.S. military, according to a poll commissioned by The Maple in April.

Despite Trump’s threats, however, Canadian government ministers have continued to stress Canada’s continued cooperation with the Americans on military affairs.

[–] healthetank@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

I've got some family in the military, and they've served in Europe both before and after Trump. They said there hasn't been any actual decrease in cooperation while overseas between the US and us, and everyone they talk to makes it clear how ridiculously an order would be taken to invade.

That being said, their last deployment was July last year, so things may have changed. Also he did note that none said they'd reject the order - just how ridiculous the whole situation was. Hoping we never have to find out.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 14 points 1 month ago

Said it before and will say it again. This is why I feel running to another country you have to think about. We have this insanely large military and a lot of damage can be done with it. We need to protest and refuse to work and whatever else we can do.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We need people at the top who will resist when the shit hits the fan. They should tread lightly to hang on to their position.

I condemn the ones who resign out of principle, they are the very people we need to stay in.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

Why do you think so many generals and admirals got fired under trump?

[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Invade with what?

Didn't they waste all their armament on Iran? And I doubt U.S. soldiers would actually follow that kind of order without any objection. They're stupid, but not that stupid.

However. Maybe it's time I apply for that gun license...

[–] ZJBlank@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Realistically, the US could still defeat us pretty quickly, militarily. The ensuing Canadian insurgency though, that’s another matter. It’d be like Iraq all over again.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

USA has shown time and time again that they can do absolutely nothing against a barely structured insurgency. If the canadian military has been paying the slightest bit of attention for the past 70 years, they know not to defend against USA by conventional methods.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Population of Iraq: 48 million

Population of Canada: 41 million

Area of Iraq: 438,000 km²

Area of Canada: 9.98 million km²

US-Iraq Border: 0 km

US-Canada Border: 8,900 km

A US invasion of Canada would make Iraq look like a pleasant afternoon picnic in the park.

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Well, I suppose it's better than an enthusiastic "Yes!"

At least they still have the decency to be embarrassed about it.

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[–] bowreality@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

Now that they charge themselves 100% tariff on drones …

Jokes aside, I say we should get ready. Everybody can gain or polish some relevant skills that come in handy if it comes to it.

Best case you have a new hobby, worst case we make their life miserable if they decide to try and attack us.

[–] Bluedragon012@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You better disobey or we'll make sure that no one in the armed forces get any rights. We'd shoot you on sight along with anyone else that didn't refuse the shitter in cheif. Behave and use your neglected moral compass.

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