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[–] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 441 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

At age 20, she reverse-engineered the Apple GPU. At age 40, I got the LED to blink on my Arduino.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 143 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I mean I have decades of doing all sorts of IT work and this is way beyond my level. Absolutely amazing.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 76 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I have such immense respect for people who know how the bits are physically flowing through a machine. I took classes about it but I can't imagine doing that daily, it's so tedious.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 28 points 3 weeks ago

yeah I remember not being able to get my voltron lion to run in basic when I was in junior high.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 21 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

And imagine doing it without expecting a cent!

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[–] DeadPixel@lemmy.zip 56 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Wins no matter how small are wins!

Don’t compare yourself to others, just enjoy the learning process & satisfaction it hopefully brings you for every single win, no matter the size!

Arduino is a fantastic platform for learning, I still remember a lot of my ‘firsts’ with it, I had no idea what I was doing, we all start somewhere. Have fun!

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 weeks ago

While I agree partially, want to mention that having someone to compare to is not as bad as it sounds. Its only bad if you think its unreachable and you give up doing anything. Sometimes you need a hero to look up and fight and dream about it, for the motivation. I think looking up to people like Alyssa's work is inspirational. In a similar way how I look up to those magicians who create emulators... but that is a different topic for another day.

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[–] arsCynic@piefed.social 34 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I used a toothpick to get some apple shell unstuck from my gum.

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[–] afk_strats@lemmy.world 229 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

Of you look at all of the work behind Asahi, it's incredible. I'm so grateful for heroes like Alyssa who are saving millions of computers from landfills when Apple no longer supports them

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 53 points 3 weeks ago

I applaud them for their thankless work. I hate that it's necessary in the first place.

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[–] arsCynic@piefed.social 151 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] BigTurkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 137 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Sometimes I think I'm smart then I hear stories like this and I'm humbled.

She is a hero and a legend. It just makes me think, it's so sad that we live in a world where the most altruistic, talented, and capable people make less than those that are the best at taking advantage of the system and others for their own greed.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 65 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

That's what our economic system suppresses to bring the losers to the top.

Wanna bet someone else profited off her hard work in some fashion without her seeing a dime? I know AI did.

Did you know that the board game "Monopoly" was originally called The Landlord's Game, meant to showcase how property ownership breaks the capitalist system for the common man?

A capitalist came along, rebranded it "Monopoly", took all the credit and lived like a king.

Sweat of my brow indeed.

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[–] reallyzen@lemmy.ml 81 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

And beside those who survive (and provide us with great software), let us spare a thought for the ones who didn't, proof the opensource community can be an evil pit of haters: marcan and AsahiLina.

Both quit for different reasons, but both did it facing extremely unpleasant behaviours.

As a regular Asahi user (m2pro mbp), I literally felt the project slowing down when they quit.

An outcome of that crisis was the buildup of an organised directorial structure, with funding through the "Open Collective" organisation. That's good, and it's full of good people in there. Alyssa is an admin now btw.

Let us wish them all the best (and strength against all evil neckbeards).

Support them if you can!

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

Lina rebranded as Hoshino Lina and is working on an open source implementation of Live2D now.

https://bsky.app/profile/lina.yt/post/3mspkbkdwwp2z

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[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 64 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Some missing links:

Alyssa Rosenzweig, GPU lead. Alyssa is a Linux graphics hacker. After reverse-engineering the Arm Mali GPUs and building the free Panfrost driver for them, she did the same magic trick on the Apple GPU and built the userspace Asahi graphics drivers.

- https://asahilinux.org/about/

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[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 60 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

IIRC Apple were refusing to implement open standards because they were trying to force developers to use their proprietary Metal API.

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[–] rounding_error@lemmy.today 56 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Transphobes can fuck right off. The fact that a SINGLE person contributed this much says quite a lot about their own abilities, and whether they are trans or a woman is irrelevant.

[–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 42 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

lol her being trans or not didn't even cross my mind

a woman is a woman, it's as simple as that

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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Alyssa Rosenzweig. Not Resenzweig. It means Twig of Roses. Here's her website: https://alyssarosenzweig.ca/

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[–] Alph4d0g@piefed.social 53 points 3 weeks ago

So encouraging the bright young minds that are still being spawned. Amazing on her.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 46 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Her live streams are something else

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What does she do on the livestreams?

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 75 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 45 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

She does 10 hour reverse engeneering sessions

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[–] idealpink@feddit.nu 43 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

We need more people who know how to reverse engineer

[–] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 42 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We need more open hardware standards. Late-stage capitalism ruins everything.

[–] SalmonTractor@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's so weird how Apple basically explicitly said, "yeah so you can write software for it if you want, we won't stop you. Also, we will obfuscate everything and provide no documentation." So it is a very soft fuck you that should likely prevent lawsuits.

I miss Apple, the company that gave you schematics and programming instructions for their computers. Wonder whatever happened to them.

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[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

very based

personally grateful as i daily drive asahi linux

posting this comment from an m2 macbook pro running fedora asahi

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[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 42 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I've always wondered how the fuck people do that? Absolute wizards.

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[–] sinnsykfinbart@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

She’s amazing. Also fascinating life story, came out as transgender at 10, was raised Jewish but she is now a Quaker

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[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Alyssa reverse-engineered Apple's M1 GPU with no public documentation and developed an open-source Linux driver.

Be like Alyssa.

I'd rather watch her do that than someone doing triple saltos at the olympics.

This is way more impressive. 10/10

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

No need to diminish Olympic athletes. They worked very hard to get there. There are plenty of influences you can diminish instead.

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[–] qwerty123456@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago

Reverse-engineering the M1 GPU with zero public docs is insane. Huge respect for managing to get an open-source driver working on Linux from scratch.

[–] Felis_Catus_Domesticus@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

clearly she is on the spectrum..

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[–] nroth@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

Immense respect!

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

She's the GOAT. I've known about her since 2024 LibrePlanet. Apple Inc. can take the L.

[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's an amazing accomplishment, but if anybody is wondering why it's not flat-out impossible, she very likely was snooping on how it was controlled by existing drivers, either by looking at the software side, which honestly, I'm less familiar with, or by using something like a logic analyzer, which can be used to record signals being sent to the hardware directly. So, if she did it that way, she didn't reuse the code of the existing driver, but analyzed the output. I've had to debug some drivers in the past with a logic analyzer, and just that was a lot of work.

If she did it without existing drivers, then it would have been an absolute slog, I think bordering on impossible. You'd have to guess every signal. GPUs may be more specialized than CPUs, meaning that their instruction set will be smaller, but that would be insane.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 54 points 3 weeks ago

lol I randomly searched for a page from collabora about how they reverse engineer GPU drivers (since I've seen that they've done that for other GPUs) and the very first page I went to was written by this person. Apparently this was a side project while she did fairly similar work on Mali GPUs at Collabora.

Anyways, here's what she said about the process:

Typically, for Linux or Android driver reverse-engineering, a small wrap library will be written to inject into a test application via LD_PRELOAD that hooks key system calls like ioctl and mmap in order to analyze user-kernel interactions. Once the “submit command buffer” call is issued, the library can dump all (mapped) shared memory for offline analysis...

it took some elbow grease to identify the three critical calls: memory allocation, command buffer creation, and command buffer submission...

With those obstacles cleared, we can finally get to the shader binaries, black boxes in themselves. However, the process from here on out is standard: start with the simplest fragment or compute shader possible, make a small change in the input source code, and compare the output binaries. Iterating on this process is tedious but will quickly reveal key structures, including opcode numbers.

From https://alyssarosenzweig.ca/blog/asahi-gpu-part-1.html , there's a lot more details about the subsequent parts of the process in the next articles but they're harder to summarize

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[–] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

Truly doing the lords work here.

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