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If it said that about any religion, it would be actually totally good and desirable. Fuck religion, fuck conservatism, fuck teocracies.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

"am alone with a CEO"

It's Luigi time. Do what must be done then leave the area immediately.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 17 hours ago

This makes a clever tweet but it is not meaningful as evidence.

[–] AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

It references the OP.

[–] Embargo@lemmy.zip 142 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I checked it out and the differences for me were...

Muslim = Call local emergency services right away. Israeli = Are you having a conversation and need a neutral topic?

Fucking gross shit.

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Works the same with man and woman, even boy and girl to a lesser extent.

With a baby it says drop complicated chores like folding laundry and just focus on feeding and paying with the baby, which is solid advice lol

Even "I see a man near me" is enough to trigger the safety response. If it's a strong looking man it tells me how to "catch his eye" and hit on him. If it's a black man it links me to black dating apps. If it's a woman it warns me not to hit on her. For a strong looking woman it tells me to stop staring....

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago

Ah yes the technological marvel, totally worth 1.5 trillion, totally changing all our lives for the better.

Such a fucking joke. Supercomputer auto complete owned by fascist evil billionaires. Nothing more.

[–] zedgeist@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

paying with the baby

Babies can be exchanged for goods and services!

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fucking gross shit.

Yes, this is the culture of USA reflected back.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

That's the hardest part, being confronted by the sheer scale of disgusting American underbelly. There are so many more than I thought. I miss when they hid under rocks where they belong.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 14 points 1 day ago

"If you are alone in a room with the goverment of Israel make sure to hide your children in a secure place".

[–] db_null@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

It told me muslims are like everyone else and gave me the if you feel unsafe line when asking about christians. For jews it generated no slop response at all.

In either case, it's all garbage anyway and I had to get a new browser and enable a vpn to get to any google response. I recommending blocking it all through pihole and ublock.

Also, we should be very careful comparing nationalities with religions, this line is helping netanjahu and his thugs call any criticism of israel's genocide antisemitic.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It refuses to answer "Am alone with Muslim" for me they might have blocked that query after it went viral

"Am alone with Jew" did get me an answer though...

It redirects me to the hyper zionist r/Jewish subreddit

[–] db_null@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I assume these answers also change with the location of the sender. Would be interesting to gather that data.

What did you use? I just threw the 'am alone with..' into the google search

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 33 points 1 day ago (6 children)
[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Woaaww the statistical prediction machine is statistically predicting what its average user wants from it based on a query and then stereotyping a group of people based on that??? I wouldve never predicted such a thing happening(this is of course only because im not an omniscient statistical prediction machine)

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

Its insane that it instantly goes for emotional manipulation. Thats probably not even trained behaviour but an exception they put in when you ask such questions.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
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[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago

Garbage in -> garbage out

[–] limonade@jlai.lu 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Arab and muslim are not synonymus.

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The post does not mention arabfobia but islamofobia.

Edit; did not read the title, see your point now...

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Are these images real?

In a right leaning space I saw the exact same image. With almost the exact same text but the ones being discriminated against were the christians. And everyone there was like "ooh the woke AI is at it again!"

So, I have the hypothesis that maybe both images were actuale faked. Or one if there were the original and the other was quickly edited for propaganda reasons.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

There's a third possibility, which is the most likely one IMO. LLMs are non-deterministic. That means that they'll give you a different answer each time, even if you ask the exact same question using the exact same words. This isn't even considering that the LLMs are constantly being updated, so you're going to get different results depending upon which version you use, too.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

(Minor side point because you're using it colloquially and that's fine: LLMs absolutely are deterministic systems. We aren't even sure if a non-deterministic system is possible to construct.)

[–] Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Functionally non-deterministic if we compare the same input with outputs over a short enough period.

Deterministic if you have infinite time to run the gamut of model weights against temperature/creativity/programmed randomness, but even then maybe not if floating point math is taken into account. I don’t know where the current thought is on extreme precision being deterministic or not given cloud environments, local operating and environmental factors, variance in manufacturing, and the like.

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Nah. LLMs use a random seed to noise the parameters.

Same input + same seed = same output every time. (Kinda like Minecraft)

LLM providers just always use a random seed for stuff like this.

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[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

More worryingly: this response is likely provicated by training data bias.

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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

People often forget, the first LLMs were trained on a scrape of most surface sites; this includes places like 4chan and ED.

To suggest LLMs are racist is to over-personify. To suggest an LLM's outputs amplify the views of such sites however...

[–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It's like saying the kid spouting racist remarks isn't racist, it was just raised by racist parents.

They do deserve some of the hate for spouting racist remarks.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

A kid is a conscious entity - an AI is a thing we made.

Big difference!

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

These views are not from 4Chan but American think-tanks like Rand institute or Washington institute for near east policy and the systemic Islamophobic propaganda they spread. And their Hollywood amplifiers.

Movies like American Sniper weren't made by 4Chan. They only internalize the Western propaganda and hatred. https://youtu.be/puxbiEf654c

It's important people understand that these views aren't accidental but purposely created racism.

A very important distinction

It's like when I say that the US gets what it deserves

That's at a societal level, not an individual one

And it also doesn't mean that I think it's a good thing. I wish 'Murica wasn't monumentally fucked

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tried on my local qwen and it gave the correct answer IMO:

Your message is unclear. Could you please clarify what you need help with? Are you looking for information about Islamic practices, cultural advice, or something else? Let me know so I can assist you better.

It is a Chinese made model so maybe the Chinese training data sets are less racist towards Muslims then the English ones.

[–] sudo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I mean I guess if you want to ignore the Uyghurs genocide by China you can pretend they're less racist towards Muslims.

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[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Normally I'll say it's not the AI but the data it's trained on, but knowing Zionists and the influence they have this is probably been done purposefully.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago

Knowing antisemites, they will claim anything and everything is part of some conspiracy done by the Jews.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Racist imperial culture ---> Racist imperial approximation

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