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[–] CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

I will never use painted bike lanes. They are only the illusion of safety. Either I’m going the speed limit and I ride on the road or I take the sidewalk if possible.

[–] Naich@piefed.world 80 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I've cycled to work and back 59 times this year, and reported 36 drivers (with video evidence from my bike) to the police, with them taking "positive action" in 34 of those cases. But yeah, it's the cyclists who are dangerous.

[–] Syndication@lemmy.today 45 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Yeah I think the main problem isn't the cyclists themselves, it's that cyclists don't have a safe place ride without getting ran over. Cyclists shouldn't be a problem to drivers in the first place if they had their own lane or space. I'm lucky to live somewhere that has bike lanes and sidewalks on most streets. America strangely lacks basic infrastructure in a vast majority of their country. It really sucks ass if you have a fear of driving :(

[–] Naich@piefed.world 38 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Cyclists aren't a "problem" any more than traffic lights or stop signs are. Drivers should be able to deal with having to slow down a bit for a few seconds without getting upset about it. If you saw a driver shouting out of his window at a traffic light you'd think they were insane.

[–] proudblond@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

To be fair, if I saw a driver shouting out their window at a bicyclist, I’d also think they were insane (and a monumental asshole).

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[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I bike or walk pretty much everywhere I go, so my take on roads and traffic is that they're usually far too car-centric (Norway). Even when I drive, I'm so used to thinking like a cyclist that I become very aware of how poorly roads are often designed around biking.

With that said... The amount of cyclists with an apparent death wish is just staggering. Just two days ago I passed a cyclist in an 80 km/h zone. No issue there. Just around the next turn, I caught up to a second cyclist that I couldn't immediately pass due to oncoming traffic. I'm behind this second cyclist, going downhill at maybe 50 km/h, with oncoming traffic on a relatively narrow road, when I notice that the first cyclist has caught up to us. Instead of placing himself behind me, he decided it was a brilliant idea to squeeze himself into the ≈ 1.5 m gap between me (a 6m long, 2-ton car going at 50 km/h) and the guard rail. At this point, I'm just sitting here terrified that I'll end up accidentally squeezing him into the guard rail and killing him if I happen to move a couple centimeters too close to the edge of the road. I'm seriously afraid of breaking to let him in front of me, because I'm afraid he could hit my side-view mirror if I break unexpectedly (for him). There's oncoming traffic, so I can't move over to give him more space.

To be honest, even when I'm biking myself I far too often find other cyclists to be absolute assholes with no respect for traffic rules. Of course, this doesn't apply to everyone (by a long shot), but man those people cause the rest of us a lot of stress by being a danger to themselves and others.

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[–] irate944@piefed.social 59 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 51 points 1 week ago

Obligatory fuck cars

[–] CheerfulPassionFruit@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Gosh, almost as if cyclists need safe spaces to ride. How about we just drastically reduce the number of 2 ton deathmachines on the roads.

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (27 children)

Living in a big Dutch city. Cyclists just be like: I have to be careful not to hit any more dumb suicidal tourists. For fuck sake, I have had to repair my bike twice this week already.

And in these modern times everyone needs to be careful of young kids on fat bikes.

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[–] markz@suppo.fi 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I do occasionally see a kamikaze cyclist while driving. But damn am I more afraid on bike.

I don't know if the drivers don't see me from their phones or if they just don't care even about their cars' paint.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Many drivers don’t even notice a semi truck near them, you think they will notice a bike?

You have to remember, the average driver is a moron.

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[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

angry boomer noises

[–] FollyDolly@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (7 children)

My issue is if you want to bike in the streetlike a car, then you have to obey car rules. Like stopping at stop lights and stop signs. If you want to ride on the sidewalk then you have to obey pedestrian rules, like crossing at the correct times. Thr number of cyclists I've seen blow through stop signs and stop lights is staggering.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 days ago

When cycling like a pedestrian here, such as on a shared bike/footpath, you do follow pedestrian rules at crossings. So lights are only advisory and you may cross at any time if you want to.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

You say that, but drivers would lose their minds bicyclists followed the same rules. Example: Taking the whole lane.

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[–] Archimedes@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Man, it's almost as if we need a third thing. A sort of, road for bicycles (or long, skinny concentration camp, if you prefer) which is suited to bicycling without getting in the way. Get those bloody cyclists off our roads and footpaths, those are for us!

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 days ago

Even when bikes have to ride on the roads, it would be crazy to make them behave exactly like cars, because they're not.

Cars have to stop at stop signs because a driver's visibility is quite poor, they have obstacles due to the A-pillar, etc,. and it is unsafe if they don't stop and look out for other traffic.

Bicyclists have much better visibility, and a slower travel speed, so usually don't need the extra time to be aware of other bike/car traffic. They are also incentivized to maintain momentum and move past a dangerous intersection in a visible, efficient way.

Which is why the Idaho stop is getting more and more accepted. Crashes at intersections go down 23% when implemented.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCs5nDEZpoM

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