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No scientific proof at all but it feels like washing powder does a much better job at removing stains than washing liquid.

It also seems more and more difficult to find washing powder in store as manufacturers are moving to liquid and even more a rip off - pods. Don't get me started on these money spinners.

What is your experience and what works best?

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[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

TechnologyConnections did a study claiming that the big name powders are enshitifying their products to push you to the more expensive pods.

They promote a full strength powder

https://youtu.be/DAX2_mPr9W8?is=nuoOIO-4qsa9wAZh

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not just promote, he designed his own dishwashing powder. I've never seen anyone who passionate about dishwashers as this guy

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He made his own dishwasher powder? I was unaware of that, I'll have to try to find that

[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It works great but in my experience it was too dry. Made me cough every time we opened the bag and detergent just puffed into the air.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I already make my own laundry soap, so I wonder if it's that different

[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This one isn’t really his product, technically, though he did help design it. It’s an EcoGeek product sold at Good.store (which is an “all proceeds go to charity” seller started by John and Hank Green.

Here’s the link, in case you’re curious. I kinda felt like it wasn’t worth the price tag, regardless of whether proceeds were going to charity. It works really well though.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I checked that out after you mentioned it existed and promptly stopped caring when I saw it's > .50/load.

I haven't had a need to make my own dishwasher powder like I have laundry powder, so I've been using boxes powder, but no way in fuck am I paying that kind of price for it. I'd make it myself for that price....

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

From the mention of stains I assume OP is talking about laundry not dishes.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago

I avoid pods due to microplastics.

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The problem with the question is us, the consumers. When is the last time you sat down to read the instructions in great detail? A cursory look at the recommended temperature maybe and off we go. Meanwhile a labcoat has produced the greatest formula to clean everything at room temperature. If only we used this much water and these many spin cycles. But no one read the back of the container.

Where I am at, people tend to not do a hot cycle or if they need it they go to a launderette. The liquid works okay on clothes in a cold cycle. But bed sheets and towels start smelling if they don't get at least a 40C/100F cycle every once in a while. And I do that one on powder because it was the only one that wasn't designed to be for cold wash only. So to summarize this extremely boring anecdote: it depends where you are, what your machine is like, and probably on local water quality as well. Or: we'll never find a good answer here that satisfies the demands of the scientific method.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I never wash anything in hot, it's really bad for your clothes / fabrics. My stuff doesn't smell when it comes out, and my clothing lasts ages.

The smell is from your washing machine, not the cold wash of your laundry. Doing a hot cycle occasionally will help clean the mold & mildew from inside the machine, even without it having items in it. Even better if you put some bleach or a cleaning tablet in it

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not from the machine because I clean that as well. And then all clothes should get the smell and they don't. It's a riddle inside an enigma wrapped in confused consumers.

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

People have different body chemistries, hard vs soft water, etc.

[–] tired_fedora@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

In my personal experience, both for dishwashers and laundry, powder does a better job.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

The comments here are interesting. There's a very important detail you left out, and everyone is just assuming in their responses.

OP, what are you trying to wash? Laundry, dishes (in a dishwasher, or by hand), or something else entirely?

[–] PostProcess@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's a guy on YouTube that covers this. Powders can contain bleach and cleaning agents in the same mix since they are dry. This gives the best of both worlds. With liquids, the two interact and break down the coach resulting in a poorer result. Pods can keep the components separate but why pay the extra? Something like that anyway. Personal experience is that liquids leave a funky buildup over time that you just don't get with powders.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That guy is full of BS. There is a noticeable difference in dishwashing tablets as well. I tested cheap tablets after seeing his video and it left massive stripes.

He's one of those cargo cult scientists trying to make you believe he's smart while he's not

[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You talking about TechnologyConnections? Cause damn, dude. “I tested cheap tablets and my results didn’t match his so he’s full of BS” is a wild take. He specifically talks about formulation being important in later dishwashing videos, not all detergents are created equally.

But I have had great results switching to the powder version of a name brand.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that guy. He basically went "all the fancy color soap does nothin and all dishwasher tablets are basically the same" but that is most definitely false.

If my results dont match his claim then his research sucks.

[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago

You’re missing at least 2/3rds, if not more, of his dishwasher saga. He addresses and validates people’s poor results, providing possible reasons for the differences including water quality, detergent quality, etc.

But no, he’s definitely full of BS. /s

[–] hummingbird@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Powder has the advantage of not going bad. Liquid on the other hand can.

[–] florge@feddit.uk 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Also powder is less resource intensive to transport

[–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

a lot cheaper too

[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

But liquide is easy tocuse for people like me. But I agree ease of use is not the best criteria. But when you are delivered to yourself and don't know how to does nor nothing, a pod seems like a good solution, just put one in the drum and done. But after you buy two or three boxes anyone with two brain cells, sees it is a rip off.

[–] pasdechance@jlai.lu 4 points 3 days ago

Liquid is supposed to be concentrated, if you use too much and don't rinse enough you won't really remove smells/bacteria. As others mention, it is best to read manuals and instructions. If you don't use enough your clothes will smell like the worst thing in the wash.

I hardly see powder for sale in any shops where I live, so liquid gets the convenience points.

When I do see powder, I buy it because it is useful for setting the delayed start on my washer. I used to do pods, but they are awful, especially the pods filled with liquid. The water is so hard where I live, maybe that had something to do with it.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

It all depends on the quality of the product you buy. I tested good brands powder and liquid and they're both good. Liquids are easier to refill in the machine. Powders are a bit better in value.

[–] altasshet@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

I just use laundry detergent strips. Much more compact, works fine.

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hey, it's me, the body wash guy from the other post.

So as it turns out, washing powder for dishwashers and washing machines are functionally the same base ingredients with dishwashing powders containing a higher ph and powdered bleach. I've been experimenting with this and have a recipe for each that does an amazing job.

Unfortunately, my recipe for these does currently use other branded products in the form of Roma Soap and Zote Bar Soap, but this is primarily for convenience as they already meet my expected ratios. Hit me up if you want the recipes, they're unreasonably good for how cheap they are.

[–] zigzag@lemmus.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do you have a web, video, or Lemmy post about it somewhere? I'd be curious about the story?

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

https://lemmy.world/comment/25333491

I posted the recipe here, I did the research myself based on ingredient lists, break downs of ingredient functions, and trial and error to decide ratios.

[–] trem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

I've heard before that powders/solids are generally easier to mix than liquids, because you can just have all the active parts go when water is added.

With liquids (or really water-based solutions), there's already water in there, so you have to design the reactions, so that they only start when a certain water concentration is reached, which is a lot more fickle and limits you in what you can do.

I could imagine that giving powder an advantage, but I also don't have scientific evidence. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I switched years ago to using Nellie’s Laundry Soda and it’s been great for us. Significantly cheaper per load, cleans well, doesn’t overpower you with fragrance, doesn’t gunk up the soap tray in the washer with the slimy residue, and is easily vacuumed up if it spills.

It’s like $90 for an 800-load bucket that weighs 26.5 lbs (12 kg) from Costco. You use 1 Tbsp (15 mL) of powder per normal load, and 2 if it’s a large or really dirty load. I almost always just use 1 and never had an issue.

Our last bucket lasted almost 2.5 years, and we are a larger family with a lot of laundry. Bought our current bucket last November, so should be good until like February 2028. I have a small plastic container on the washer and then refill it from the big bucket once every couple months.

Also stopped using fabric softener entirely and found out it’s really not needed.

Finally, I have rediscovered how awesome bleach can be for laundry, and it is also very inexpensive, so definitely recommend looking into that, too.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 1 points 3 days ago

I tried buying a box of borax for some ant control, but accidentally ordered a case. So I toss some in to every load or laundry these days and it’s really helped my results. I swear colors are brighter and the scent is fresher.

[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

It depends on the brands. Some wash better, some leave better scent, some have built in softner, etc. So maybe the product class alone is not enough to judge.