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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 147 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They're using weapon printing as the wedge, but this is really about protecting all manufacturers.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 96 points 1 month ago (6 children)

This is the thing imo. Come in under “ban ghost guns” but 10 years from now you try to print a new battery door for your remote and get blocked because the design is the property of Samsung.

Fuck Bambu and co, I’ll keep my voron around as long as humanly possible

[–] LilBobbyTables@lemmy.today 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It’s more about protecting companies like Disney, Nintendo, etc, not replacement parts. 3D printing is rife with copyright infringement, and companies like those would absolutely love a way to block their IP from being printed, or to be able to sue those who do it.

[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (8 children)

..and this is why roght to repair laws need to be enforced heavily. If your stupid joystick is broken on purpose so you can squeeze $100 out of me every 6 months, i have a right and duty to correct it for myself and anyone who asks.

(But fr tho stop buying nintendo products. They absolutely arent worth the moral weight and consumer disrespect. Pokemon is an incredibly lazy rpg design meant to sell toys)

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 month ago (6 children)

The way I see it, a person can print a company's IP as long as they're not trying to sell it.

What are they going to do, sue me for drawing a picture of mario or making kirby out of clay? Printing for personal use is the same concept.

I could see them going after 3D model designers who post stls of their IP. Personally I think if they're not selling it then it shouldn't be an issue, but I don't think the companies would see it that way, and I don't know exactly where the law stands on it.

This is why they can't simply pass IP laws, but they're sneaking it in with the pretense of "protecting the children" (when most school shootings happen with guns that were legally obtained by the shooter or their parents...)

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 84 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 74 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't worry. It won't be long before possession of an unregistered 3D printer becomes a crime, too.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I thought this bill did that, but it looks like they crossed out the consumer circumvention clauses anyway.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

That seems like a nightmare to set up.

Feels like people casually mocking car registration by pointing to the Hot Rod from Home Improvement.

I mean, sure. It can be done. But I failed to install a water cooling kit in my computer after a very long and harrowing weekend. I'm not fucking with this.

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[–] stankmut@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You'd think with a title that says "California just passed a law", that it would actually be about California passing a law. It still has to go through the senate and then get signed by the governor.

Edit: The bill was passed in the Assembly back in May. This is a nearly 3 month old article.

[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 month ago (10 children)

How would this even be enforced?

Like, it seems like it would be a trivial process to just install a firmware package without the blocks.

[–] sharkteethsandwich@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's probably just an extra charge they can throw at you if your house ever gets searched. Fuck hobby enthusiasts I guess

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Not true (yet). Could be later, but for now, there's no crime for circumvention.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 9 points 1 month ago

And small businesses.

[–] False@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Digital signatures and closed firmware.

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

From Lewis Rossmans bit on this from this morning, an internet connection and third party AI scanning tools.

So its a whole bucket of "fuck that noise".

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[–] LilBobbyTables@lemmy.today 35 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I’d love to know how they expect printer manufacturers to do this, given all they do is read gcode. Do the legislation makers even know what a slicer is?

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I went to a CA committee hearing (and I got to meet Louis Rossmann in the process) and I guarantee you the people supporting this bill and the committee voting on it generally have no idea what the fuck they're talking about.

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[–] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Of course they know what a slicer is. Most of these people existed long before pre-cut loaves were sold at the stores.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

If it ever take forms, it will be absolutely unenforceable with how many devices currently operates. Aside from a ban on open hardware (good luck with that), nothing will happen.

Unfortunately, being technically impossible to enforce is of little consequence. It just becomes a convenient law to pull out if they want to hammer you down and you happen to have a 3D printer that don't have this built-in.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

OP why are you posting a 3 month old article with no updated information or that needed context that this was in the past? There was a discussion then.

It's almost like you are trying to upset people again for sport, because reddit broke your brain and you think internet points are important. Almost like that.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think about this a lot.

Sometimes I learn about news that greatly affects my hobby but then notice it's like a month old.

And I wonder - so I share it? Do I sit with it? Do others know about it?

Assuming positive intent, OP thought the former.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 30 points 1 month ago (27 children)

There's pedophiles roaming the streets and no one can afford healthcare or housing but yeah, lets make useless laws to try and regulate 3d printers....

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Roaming the streets? They are sitting in the fucking white house.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The standards will not mandate perfect efficacy – they will allow for “an acceptably low level of evasion” against a bank of identified design files.

They've just admitted that it won't work. It will rely on a bank of banned designs which means anyone can just modify them until the algorithm doesn't recognize it as such while still being functional or simply make their own designs. Whoever finds a way to evade those restrictions will pass on the word.

Sucks that this will act as a push to lock down 3D printer firmware for everyone else though. Mass enshitification inbound. The only hope I see is that 3D printer manufacturers will simply get out of California as a result instead because the expense of developing such an algorithm and the risk of fines if it is not performing well enough is too great.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Any such algorithm would be patched out of a jailbroken version of the firmware in minutes. 3D printers are already running on FOSS, so this is worse than useless. Anyone who wants to print a working gun will be able to do so trivially.

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[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 month ago (5 children)

California needs to start pushing laws to shut down hardware stores, department stores, shopping malls, and office supply stores since you can buy things in those places to also create makeshift weapons.

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[–] jonesey71@lemmus.org 23 points 1 month ago (4 children)

One of the most common uses for 3d printers is for cosplay props. I wonder if the lawmakers considered how this infringes on the rights of people trying to print prop guns from their favorite video games or anime?

[–] Brimstone@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They don’t even know what cosplays is lol

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[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

They don’t care

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[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Good luck with that... 3D printers are not complicated and you could build one yourself if you wanted to.

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[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (10 children)

The first thing they need to add to their DRM thing is those flexible dragons that have taken over half the booths at a local comic con. That and The Rock's head.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

The standards will not mandate perfect efficacy – they will allow for “an acceptably low level of evasion” against a bank of identified design files.

So they except this is basically an impossible task. Essentially they're just going to check that the algorithm can detect the test examples, and then anything beyond that is an acceptably low level of evasion apparently.

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[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I can't wait for the EU to eagerly adopt this like they do for a lot of these dogshit US decisions.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This what happens when a state is controlled by idiots. I wish we had opposition party that were not a bunch of boot licking freaks.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Fuck this country.

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are we even fucking free any more?

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Has a 3d printed gun been used in a crime? Ever?

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] obvs@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Did Luigi Mangione do anything wrong?

News to me.

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[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Just configured my router to block my new printer. Looking up how to set up Linux to block my slicer. Fuck this sucks.

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[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

DIY 3D printers aren't that difficult. It's just two or three motors, a motion controller and a hot nozzle for most plastic printing. Replace the hot nozzle with a really epic laser for metal parts or possibly a stick welder. Even better with lithographic printing minus the really toxic fumes of the material. Take a really bright high resolution screen or maybe a projector and one motor and you got yourself a lithographic printer. Are you going to compete directly with cutting edge printers? Probably not. Will you still be able to make shit that works? Most likely after some tinkering.

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