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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 147 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They're using weapon printing as the wedge, but this is really about protecting all manufacturers.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 96 points 5 days ago (6 children)

This is the thing imo. Come in under “ban ghost guns” but 10 years from now you try to print a new battery door for your remote and get blocked because the design is the property of Samsung.

Fuck Bambu and co, I’ll keep my voron around as long as humanly possible

[–] LilBobbyTables@lemmy.today 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

It’s more about protecting companies like Disney, Nintendo, etc, not replacement parts. 3D printing is rife with copyright infringement, and companies like those would absolutely love a way to block their IP from being printed, or to be able to sue those who do it.

[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago (8 children)

..and this is why roght to repair laws need to be enforced heavily. If your stupid joystick is broken on purpose so you can squeeze $100 out of me every 6 months, i have a right and duty to correct it for myself and anyone who asks.

(But fr tho stop buying nintendo products. They absolutely arent worth the moral weight and consumer disrespect. Pokemon is an incredibly lazy rpg design meant to sell toys)

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 days ago (6 children)

The way I see it, a person can print a company's IP as long as they're not trying to sell it.

What are they going to do, sue me for drawing a picture of mario or making kirby out of clay? Printing for personal use is the same concept.

I could see them going after 3D model designers who post stls of their IP. Personally I think if they're not selling it then it shouldn't be an issue, but I don't think the companies would see it that way, and I don't know exactly where the law stands on it.

This is why they can't simply pass IP laws, but they're sneaking it in with the pretense of "protecting the children" (when most school shootings happen with guns that were legally obtained by the shooter or their parents...)

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 84 points 5 days ago (11 children)
[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 74 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Don't worry. It won't be long before possession of an unregistered 3D printer becomes a crime, too.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 34 points 5 days ago (2 children)

OP why are you posting a 3 month old article with no updated information or that needed context that this was in the past? There was a discussion then.

It's almost like you are trying to upset people again for sport, because reddit broke your brain and you think internet points are important. Almost like that.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think about this a lot.

Sometimes I learn about news that greatly affects my hobby but then notice it's like a month old.

And I wonder - so I share it? Do I sit with it? Do others know about it?

Assuming positive intent, OP thought the former.

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[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 days ago

3 months isn't 3 years. First I heard of this

[–] stankmut@lemmy.world 55 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You'd think with a title that says "California just passed a law", that it would actually be about California passing a law. It still has to go through the senate and then get signed by the governor.

Edit: The bill was passed in the Assembly back in May. This is a nearly 3 month old article.

[–] jonesey71@lemmus.org 23 points 5 days ago (4 children)

One of the most common uses for 3d printers is for cosplay props. I wonder if the lawmakers considered how this infringes on the rights of people trying to print prop guns from their favorite video games or anime?

[–] Brimstone@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They don’t even know what cosplays is lol

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[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

They don’t care

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

Well it's not like anyone in California needs lots of props.

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[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I can't wait for the EU to eagerly adopt this like they do for a lot of these dogshit US decisions.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 30 points 5 days ago (27 children)

There's pedophiles roaming the streets and no one can afford healthcare or housing but yeah, lets make useless laws to try and regulate 3d printers....

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Roaming the streets? They are sitting in the fucking white house.

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[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 25 points 5 days ago (5 children)

California needs to start pushing laws to shut down hardware stores, department stores, shopping malls, and office supply stores since you can buy things in those places to also create makeshift weapons.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

The standards will not mandate perfect efficacy – they will allow for “an acceptably low level of evasion” against a bank of identified design files.

So they except this is basically an impossible task. Essentially they're just going to check that the algorithm can detect the test examples, and then anything beyond that is an acceptably low level of evasion apparently.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

They just want to destroy open source firmware. They hate freedom from corporate control, not guns.

[–] rmrf@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 days ago (4 children)

In the same way you can buy all the stuff to make a bomb without ending up on a list, but if you do it the stupid way you're going to get the SWAT team at your door.

The 3d printer firmware is bullshit outright IMO, but this seems like the most sober-minded attempt. NY's law on the other hand is a fat lol

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This is so stupid. This is written by people who don’t understand 3D printing. This will catch nothing but fake guns that don’t work because they were printed in one solid piece, it won’t catch all the little pieces that you assemble afterwards.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (10 children)

The first thing they need to add to their DRM thing is those flexible dragons that have taken over half the booths at a local comic con. That and The Rock's head.

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[–] LilBobbyTables@lemmy.today 35 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I’d love to know how they expect printer manufacturers to do this, given all they do is read gcode. Do the legislation makers even know what a slicer is?

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 47 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I went to a CA committee hearing (and I got to meet Louis Rossmann in the process) and I guarantee you the people supporting this bill and the committee voting on it generally have no idea what the fuck they're talking about.

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[–] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Of course they know what a slicer is. Most of these people existed long before pre-cut loaves were sold at the stores.

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[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This what happens when a state is controlled by idiots. I wish we had opposition party that were not a bunch of boot licking freaks.

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[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 38 points 5 days ago (10 children)

How would this even be enforced?

Like, it seems like it would be a trivial process to just install a firmware package without the blocks.

[–] sharkteethsandwich@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It's probably just an extra charge they can throw at you if your house ever gets searched. Fuck hobby enthusiasts I guess

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Criminals have easy access to real guns, they won't bother with printing plastic ones. A terrorist will just go to a place where they don't monitor to print them.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago

In case anyone is wondering why something so idiotic: The destruction of 3D printing: Bloomberg is behind it - YouTube

Of course this is not something a rag like the register and a fraudulent "Cybersecurity reporter" Connor Jones would tell you, but instead trying to actively hide from you. Even thought the evidence is right there. They'd rather tell you some stupid story.

This is yet another mad plutocrat meddling in democracy and neoliberalism and pundits providing some nonsense explanation to distract people.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

The standards will not mandate perfect efficacy – they will allow for “an acceptably low level of evasion” against a bank of identified design files.

They've just admitted that it won't work. It will rely on a bank of banned designs which means anyone can just modify them until the algorithm doesn't recognize it as such while still being functional or simply make their own designs. Whoever finds a way to evade those restrictions will pass on the word.

Sucks that this will act as a push to lock down 3D printer firmware for everyone else though. Mass enshitification inbound. The only hope I see is that 3D printer manufacturers will simply get out of California as a result instead because the expense of developing such an algorithm and the risk of fines if it is not performing well enough is too great.

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[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I guess we're returning to reprap then. That'll actually be good for innovation, I think.

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[–] Impractical_Island@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Shit, now how will I manufacture illegal sex toys and sex toy accessories in a covert, anonymous fashion? Woe is me....

[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Good luck with that... 3D printers are not complicated and you could build one yourself if you wanted to.

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