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[–] BunScientist@lemmy.zip 69 points 1 week ago (7 children)

From what I know, it has to do with the word red covering the purple part of the spectrum long ago, and the "need" for the word purple came out later but purple things that were named red didn't get renamed.

You can look at japanese right now and 青い covers both blue and green, with a relatively recent addition of 緑 to cover only green (thus possibly pushing 青い in the future to be only blue, who knows)

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Similarly, the red fox is clearly orange, but English speakers were exposed to that species of fox before developing a word for that specific color. For bonus linguistical oddities, 'orange' was used for the fruit before it was used for the color.

[–] JamieDub86@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or the red squirrel, which is brown.

[–] TisI@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

And red hair.

[–] metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub 5 points 1 week ago

And the fruit's name is different from other countries' names for it because "a naranj" was misheard as "an orange" and it stuck. Yellow-red wasn't much adopted, though it did exist. Such is language, what a fun collective hallucination.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago

Yes, the word for greenery/foliage, 青葉, translates to "blue leaves"

Also the green traffic light is called blue

[–] JamieDub86@piefed.social 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well whys it called Shepherds Pie when it doesnt contain shepherds, or Cottage Pie when its nothing to do with cottages or cottagimg? How about that one...checkmate!!!

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And baby powder is never powdered babies!

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I was similarly let down.

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[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

I already knew this about colors (it's also why "redheads" have orange hair) but I recently dug more into how the musical spectrum and how tones are defined is very similar in it's cultural variance. Another thing is how the cardinal directions are divided radially and how time is counted. Shit counting bases even, most of the imperial measurements are based on either base 12 or base 16 math.

Wild to think that something you grew up with as a fundamental fact of the world might actually be super culturally subjective.

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[–] Doom@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Because they are only purple on the inside. Do you think apples are white? Or bananas?

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] lauha@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Humans are red so why not?

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[–] gergolippai@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

in hungarian it's purple onion, you just choose the wrong language :)

[–] webp@mander.xyz 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At least we aren't hungary all the time

[–] gergolippai@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

also, take my upvote

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago

in portuguese too

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

why do we call green grapes white

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Or purple grapes red?

(I'm guessing due to the type of wine they make)

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 7 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Don't even get me started on 'white' people.

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[–] hanke@feddit.nu 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Who calls green grapes white..?

Never heard that happen

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Might be different in other languages, but English usually divides grapes into red and white for color.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

In English, grapes are green or red.

Wine is not a grape. White wine and red wine refers to the color of the wine. Nobody calls vodka golden because it came from a potato.

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[–] anewfox@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

two examples: white wine, white grape juice. both are very common. seems to refer to the juice color, not the color of the grape skins.

when they're made into raisins, they're called golden raisins. so "white" isn't even the only one.

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[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because the dry outer skin is a rich red colour

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[–] Tiral@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So, this is kinda weird, but general colors didn't have names for a long time. Like in Greek texts by Homer he describes the water color as dark wine color because the name "blue" wasn't a word. So it's possible when they named a "red onion" purple wasn't a color and considered a shade of red.

Also as others have said purple was the color of royalty and they didn't want an association.

[–] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 9 points 1 week ago (8 children)

It's kind of wild when you learn that words for blue are relatively new in human language.

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[–] poipoiuleon@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In Spanish we actually call them "cebolla morada" that means purple onion :D

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m bilingual and I always forget which language calls it which, so I get confused looks from everyone.

[–] poipoiuleon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

JAJAJJAJAJAJJA yep it has happened to me

[–] Danarchy@lemmy.nz 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It refers to the communism of the onions

[–] MrChewy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

What really gets me is that the compounds responsible for this hue in food are called "anthocyanins" which means "blue flower." I can't even.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

It wanted to be associated with the proletariat not the ruling class.

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We call them purple in Spanish... English has brain damage as per usual.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's weird, I would have thought you'd call them morado in Spanish.

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[–] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Jess and Rob on Words Unraveled talk about color word origins, and their discussion is illuminating about the cultural variance in perception of color. Now I am at peace with all the seemingly weird color names for things.

For a quicker tour, Vox talks about the order that languages fill in color words as cultures begin to refine their distinction.

[–] Speiser0@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

The inside is purple, but the outside is red, especially if it's dry.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 6 points 1 week ago

The skin of red onions is reddish to purple. The flesh is purple much like shallots. But the skin sets them apart.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

There's a joke in Bulgarian somewhat related to that. What's commonly referred to as a prune plum we call something that roughly translates to "blue plum". The joke goes something like this:

-- Dad, what's this?

-- It's a blue plum.

-- Why is it red?

-- Because it's green.

Language is weird, but it's ironic that our use of it makes it so.

[–] killingspark@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

Wait till they find out that some cultures didn't have separate words for green and blue

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I spent way too much time sitting in the backseat looking out the window on long family drives wondering why the fuck they kept referring to the orange cheddar cheese as "yellow" cheese. Still kind of annoys me today after decades of getting older and settling down a bit.

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[–] KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org 4 points 1 week ago

Calm down... calm down... Perhaps consider putting the onions aside and trying a nice parsnip.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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