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US president’s statement is latest sign that negotations to end war and reopen strait of Hormuz have stalled

Donald Trump has said he will demand that Iran pay compensation for the deaths of thousands of US soldiers and Iran’s own civilians killed in recent decades in the latest sign his negotiations to end the war and reopen the strait of Hormuz have reached an impasse.

The US president is trying to end conflicts in Iran, Gaza and Lebanon, and his additional demands of Iran are likely to provoke anger in Tehran at the same time as Israel has rejected Trump’s terms for a 15-point roadmap to end the war in Gaza.

In a post on Truth Social, Trump said he was issuing the demand for war reparations in response to Iranian negotiators making similar claims for damages for the five-month war that has killed thousands and devastated Iran’s military and economy.

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[–] _chris@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What a petulant fucking tantrum-throwing, diaper-shitting, spoiled gods-damned toddler.

“Trying to end the conflict” and “demanding reparations from the nation who got attacked” do not equate.

It’s like dealing with the playground bully. Always a new demand.

[–] Babalugats@feddit.uk 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Was coming to say similar.

Scumbag reducing all of those deaths on both sides to some sort of game he thinks he is playing. It really and truly shows that he has neither the ability to comprehend what the fuck he is actually doing in the world, nor fit to be an elected official anywhere in the world, let alone president of the United States.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Waiting for someone to figuratively and literally punch him in the face.

[–] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The US president is trying to end conflicts in Iran, Gaza and Lebanon

[citation needed]

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Funny way to spell escalate.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The US president is trying to end conflicts in Iran

Is he, though?

[–] KingOfSleep@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

Yes, he is. Over and over again.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago

You can't end them if you don't start them first.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)
[–] Taldan@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That's just a pressure tactic. They're not actually hilding off on talks for years

From a crisis bargaining perspective, it makes perfect sense to say but little sense to actually do

Iran doesn't need to beat the US militarily, it just needs to hold out until Trump loses politically. Saying there will be no talks adds to that pressure. Waiting 3 years leaves too much room for markets to adjust, or the US to find a strategy out of this quagmire

They'll deal when Trump is desperate enough to agree to the bulk of their terms

Edit: Since this will be an unpopular comment without providing some proof

March 23rd: Trump claims deal is close, Iran denies talks are taking place

2 days later...

March 25th: Iran rejects US deal, counters with their own

Both countries lied here, for different reasons. Trump wanted to assauge the markets, Iran wanted to project the stronger bargaining position

Saying there are no talks is a negotiating tactic Iran frequently uses, although we don't need historical precedence to know that's the case. Any rational actor would still engage in negotiations, and Iran has generally acted rationally in this war. They also like to use indirect negotiations to save face, as they did in my example

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That was before Trump started violating "cease-fires" on a weekly basis to depress the stock market. There is no intelligent reason at all to have diplomatic discussions with an irrational actor that will be dead from old age or a stroke sooner rather than later.

I guess we'll see who is right in a month or two.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess we’ll see who is right in a month or two.

It didn't take a month or two. As part of negotiations, Iran is now also demanding the wars in Gaza and Lebanon end

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

During a meeting with Chinese Ambassador to Tehran, Cong Peiwu, Rezaei emphasized that the strategic waterway will remain closed unless the United States changes its behavior and accepts Iran’s stipulated conditions, which have been communicated to Washington through intermediaries.

That's quite literally a not negotiation, that's an ultimatum. They aren't negotiating anything. Try again.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They will probably chicken out too, but I'll be impressed if they stick with it.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 12 points 3 days ago

Nah, I dont think so.

They have been the calm, methodical, and rational party all the way along.

I understand that they're awful authoritarians guilty of human rights abuse, but the y do seem to mean what they say.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Why would they? They hold the cards here.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

"Iran replies 'lol, lmao even'"

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As we all know, when negotiations are stalled you just need to demand more from the other guy until they give in and give you everything you want. Obviously, why peace talks have failed so far is Trump simply didn't demand enough from Iran. Art of the Deal!

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world -5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I thought that the "Art of the Deal" at the end was enough to make it obvious I was aiming towards sarcasm.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I guessed it was, but there are a lot of crazy people. Just consider half the voters voting for Trump in the US presidential election.
Any one of them could in theory have written something pretty close to your post.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

why does anybody listen to anything this disgusting fat dipshit pedophile rapist 34-count felon says? even his followers dont read his fucking truth social posts anymore. Nobody cares.

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So you attack them and then they pay you? I just don’t see that as a deal anyone would make.

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lol, Trump's only game he ever plays is Heads I win, Tails you lose

[–] Gerblat@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

And then he sticks the quarter up his nose

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 3 points 3 days ago

The only thing Trump believes in is that everything has a dollar value, and that he wants all of it.

[–] Naich@piefed.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It has been 0 days since the last presidential stupidity.

I think we need to change the counter to hours.

We've been at 0 days since before his stint on reality TV

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

In a post on Truth Social, Trump said he was issuing the demand for war reparations in response to Iranian negotiators making similar claims for damages for the five-month war that has killed thousands and devastated Iran’s military and economy.

I almost get it. The Iranian regime really are a bunch of bastards. This is not the response of a measured diplomat and statesman, or even a realpolitik operator. It's the response of an arrogant, petulant, ignorant baby-man who's determined to take the bait every time and cede the moral high ground to an utterly inhumane regime that makes his kiddie-pool fascism look quaint. Not doing that is a big part of why the former administrations in both parties never did something as stupid as kick off open military conflict with Iran.

[–] rayyy@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago

Iran: The orange pants shitter can go pound sand.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

Trump demands about tree fiddy from Iran

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Maybe he should turn the shart faucet 37 degrees

[–] obvs@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Brainy No Workie.

Nice job new Jimmy Carter (the one president trump never wants to be compared to)

[–] howdy@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 days ago

he's regarded (highly)