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US president’s statement is latest sign that negotations to end war and reopen strait of Hormuz have stalled

Donald Trump has said he will demand that Iran pay compensation for the deaths of thousands of US soldiers and Iran’s own civilians killed in recent decades in the latest sign his negotiations to end the war and reopen the strait of Hormuz have reached an impasse.

The US president is trying to end conflicts in Iran, Gaza and Lebanon, and his additional demands of Iran are likely to provoke anger in Tehran at the same time as Israel has rejected Trump’s terms for a 15-point roadmap to end the war in Gaza.

In a post on Truth Social, Trump said he was issuing the demand for war reparations in response to Iranian negotiators making similar claims for damages for the five-month war that has killed thousands and devastated Iran’s military and economy.

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[–] Taldan@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That's just a pressure tactic. They're not actually hilding off on talks for years

From a crisis bargaining perspective, it makes perfect sense to say but little sense to actually do

Iran doesn't need to beat the US militarily, it just needs to hold out until Trump loses politically. Saying there will be no talks adds to that pressure. Waiting 3 years leaves too much room for markets to adjust, or the US to find a strategy out of this quagmire

They'll deal when Trump is desperate enough to agree to the bulk of their terms

Edit: Since this will be an unpopular comment without providing some proof

March 23rd: Trump claims deal is close, Iran denies talks are taking place

2 days later...

March 25th: Iran rejects US deal, counters with their own

Both countries lied here, for different reasons. Trump wanted to assauge the markets, Iran wanted to project the stronger bargaining position

Saying there are no talks is a negotiating tactic Iran frequently uses, although we don't need historical precedence to know that's the case. Any rational actor would still engage in negotiations, and Iran has generally acted rationally in this war. They also like to use indirect negotiations to save face, as they did in my example

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That was before Trump started violating "cease-fires" on a weekly basis to depress the stock market. There is no intelligent reason at all to have diplomatic discussions with an irrational actor that will be dead from old age or a stroke sooner rather than later.

I guess we'll see who is right in a month or two.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess we’ll see who is right in a month or two.

It didn't take a month or two. As part of negotiations, Iran is now also demanding the wars in Gaza and Lebanon end

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

During a meeting with Chinese Ambassador to Tehran, Cong Peiwu, Rezaei emphasized that the strategic waterway will remain closed unless the United States changes its behavior and accepts Iran’s stipulated conditions, which have been communicated to Washington through intermediaries.

That's quite literally a not negotiation, that's an ultimatum. They aren't negotiating anything. Try again.