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[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 63 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Did the lady try to talk to her neighbor first?

OOP does not clarify.

But.

I have seen what happens when you put cardboard boxes whole in the cardboard recycling bin: it's "full" immediately!
I have also seen people who do not remove the styrofoam filling before dumping them.
Or don't even bother putting them inside the bin, just leaving it by the side.
All that gets my blood boiling. This casual carelessness because "it's trash, so what?"

Again, the first step should always be to point this out to newcomers, but.

The fact that OOP basically says "cardboard is nothing" and says they'd burn it instead tells me they just might be the asshole here.

[–] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 11 points 1 month ago

Yea, I got a slight tingle here of OOP not being entirely without a fault on this one. But then again, my flavour of the ‘tism makes me meticulously fold and compact all of my trash to avoid any wasted space.

[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

OOP didn't bother to remove the address stickers, a minor effort that would have protected them from this very situation, and if they didn't bother to do even that...

That said, going straight to the legal system in this situation is also an asshole move. Definitely a case of "we're probably not getting the whole story, but how would we even know?"

[–] Stitch0815@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Who tf removes adress stickers before getting rid of trash in their own trashbin

The people in your house already know where you live and whats your name

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[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The neighbor should've just talked to OP first.

But yeah, how hard is it for people to flatten their cardboard? Dare I say, it is even fun sometimes getting to stomp on it.

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[–] aldhissla@piefed.world 57 points 1 month ago (4 children)

9/10 times it's a legit problem, the neighbour would just ask you nicely. If some nutjob writes you an invoice, you can safely ignore it. Going through someone's trash and photographing indentifying information on the other hand is a felony, so OOP might've just found a way to finance that lawyer for themselves.

But this is one side of a story in which the neighbour went from 0 to lawyer with no warning and OOP (presumed innocent and tidy) is apparently fed up with the entire country because of that. Seems to me pretty escalatory by the only side presenting the narrative.

So giving the benefit of the doubt to the othe side: if you are a messy tenant and do not listen to reason, good riddance to you.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 26 points 1 month ago (5 children)

If some nutjob writes you an invoice, you can safely ignore it

Disagree: You cannot safely ignore this, because it is not a normal invoice and not some primitive nutjob.

There is a lawyer behind it, and this lawyer wants to get paid. Something that does not go away by itself.

[–] gajustempus@feddit.org 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It is just a lawyer - they can ask and demand anything they like. If it's unjustified (like here for example) just ignore it.

If it's something from COURT, you HAVE to answer it. But lawyers - don't give them more credit than they deserve

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[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

you can ignore it if it isn't a court mandated order. the lawyer wants to be paid, but they don't need to be paid by OOP. they're perfectly fine being paid by the harassing neighbor, which is what will happen eventually. there are always some of these harassment cases, and generally they go away if you just ignore them because there is no legal backing. the lawyer just scares you into compliance and if you pay that gets seen as an admission of guilt. there are several types of legal letters but most of them don't require responding at all.

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[–] wador@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago

I'm with you on this. Nothing screams entitlement more than throwing uncut/unfolded boxes in the bin.

[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does Germany have felonies?

[–] remon@ani.social 7 points 1 month ago

They are called "Straftaten" but yeah, same general idea.

[–] remon@ani.social 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

From how the neighbour is acting it might actually be the landlady. In that case it would be legal for her to do so.

[–] 5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org 30 points 1 month ago

„Wir sind hier nicht in Vietnam! Wir sind in Baden-Württemberg, da gibt es Regeln!“

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Als jemand, dem es vor zwei Wochen fast den Fingernagel umgeklappt hat beim Versuch, die "gefalteten" Kartons der Nachbarn in die Tonne zu drücken, habe ich absolutes Verständnis mit der alten Dame. In meiner vorherigen Wohnung hatten wir auch eine Person, der das vorherige Zerkleinern der Kartons sehr wichtig war und was soll ich sagen? Sie hatte Recht. Es passt viel mehr in die Tonne, wenn alle es vorher klein machen. Das bedeutet weniger Nebenkosten für alle. Seitdem bin ich auch Kartonagen-Alman.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Man spricht im Allgemeinen erstmal miteinander, bevor man Anwälte, Polizei und Ähnliche einschaltet.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Stimme ich natürlich zu. Mein "Verständnis" bezieht sich auf die Frustration der alten Dame.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Altpapier Entsorgung ist fast überall kostenlos, btw

(Ändert jetzt nichts, wenn die Tonne voll ist, aber teurer wird's nicht)

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[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Ich beschreite einen Mittelweg bei dem ich alles zusammenfalte und dann ein paar Minuten drauf rumtrampel. Das ist auch super zum Frustabbau.

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[–] Thorry@feddit.org 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We all know OP didn't fold his boxes at all and just stuffed them in there, blocking up the system. Every time the lady wanted to use the paper container it would be blocked and she would have to reach in there and remove all of his shit. Then properly collapse the boxes and put them back. OP has also been told multiple times to fix his shit and there is a sign above the paper container as well.

The exact same thing happened where I work. Some idiot would just stuff an unfolded box in the paper container and would block it for everyone.

[–] creamfresh@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

that's just ragefiction, none of this is mentioned in the og post

[–] Thorry@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So we should take everything OP says at face value, even though that seems like it's pretty insane?

[–] creamfresh@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (18 children)

You and me both know that people like the old lady in the post exist. I'd also assume that someone who collects compost separately from restmüll will probably fold their boxes in a rational manner.

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[–] 5715@feddit.org 25 points 1 month ago

Krieg, Krieg bleibt immer gleich

[–] remon@ani.social 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Well, don't think of coming to Switzerland until you learned how to make a proper Bündeli either!

[–] KasimirDD@feddit.org 13 points 1 month ago

Die Schweiz - Deutschland auf Steroiden.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Und? Wie hat OP denn die Kartons gefaltet? Ich will ein Fotobeweis, also die Chancen sind eher gering bei der Beschreibung der Nachbarin. Aber villeicht isser ja doch das Arsch?!

[–] manxu@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago

Die Kartons waren wahrscheinlich nicht gefaltet?

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just for explanation: The lady has probably not spent money on a lawyer. The lawyer demands it from you as the "guilty" party (presumed guilty, because no court is involved so far).

If you want to save some money, google for the term "modifizierte Unterlassungserklärung". Hopefully you find good instructions there.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Point number one: throwing boxes into the bin with your address labels on is fucking dumb.

Point number two: throwing boxes into the paper bin without flattening then is also fucking dumb.

Obviously, if that's all the guy did (provided this story has any basis in reality at all) sending a letter from a lawyer is totally over the top and in no way justified. I also doubt any lawyer would stoop to that, but then, they're lawyers, so there's that. On top of that, unless that neighbour owns the property, they have absolutely no business trying to enforce any rules there.

All in all, either there's more to this story, or OP met an actual crazy person. These exist everywhere and their craziness manifests in a variety of ways. Sending legal letters is one of the less scary ones, if you ask me.

[–] Johanno@feddit.org 12 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Why should I have to pull off the DHL stickers of my cart board boxes before I throw it into the trash???

[–] barnacul@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Because then anyone who is able to come to your house can just find your address for free

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If they come to my house they will be at my address and if they look at the doorbell panel they will have my name with first initial... Why go through the trash for that??

[–] needanke@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago

oops, yes, that joke went straight over my head xD

[–] creamfresh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sheesh good thing then there is no panel with neatly arranged clear names written on it next to the door or something.

[–] remon@ani.social 4 points 1 month ago
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[–] SapphireSphinx@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sein Fehler war halt nach BW zu ziehen. Ländle of the Kehrwoche, home of the Spießbürger. Machste nix. /s

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Anzeige ist natürlich übertrieben, aber unzerkleinerte Kartons in die gemeinsame Tonne zu tun ist schon ziemlich unsozial.

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[–] arcine@jlai.lu 8 points 1 month ago

This is one of the many reasons I always destroy anything bearing my name before disposal.

[–] voodoocode@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago

Ist Reddit nicht nur noch alles Bots zum Ragebaiten?

[–] turdas@suppo.fi 3 points 1 month ago

That post is AI slop by the way.

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