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Minnesota’s new state flag should feature an eight-pointed North Star against a dark blue background shaped like the state, with a solid light blue field at the right, a special commission decided Tuesday as it picked a replacement for an older design that many Native Americans considered offensive.

The State Emblems Redesign Commission chose the final version on an 11-1 vote after finalizing a new state seal that depicts a loon, the state bird. Unless the Legislature rejects them, the new flag and seal will automatically become official April 1, 2024, when Minnesota observes Statehood Day.

The star echoes Minnesota’s state motto of “Star of the North.” The commission’s chairman, Luis Fitch, said that to him, the light blue represents the Mississippi River, “the most important river in the United States,” pointing to the North Star. But he acknowledged it could mean other things to other people. Symmetry and simplicity won out over other versions, including ones that included a green stripe for the state’s agricultural heritage.

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[-] cybervseas@lemmy.world 145 points 11 months ago

Too bad they didn't go with the Polaris Tri-color. I agree with Grey that it was the best of the color variations.

[-] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 34 points 11 months ago

I liked this choice. The tri-color seemed a little busy to me.

[-] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 37 points 11 months ago

I agree. I do like the tri color and would have been happy with it, but there’s a quote from whom I cannot remember that essentially is “flag design is finding the perfect flag and then dialing it down a notch”. And to that end, I think it succeeds wonderfully.

It’s modern but classic. Detailed but not busy. Inclusive but not all-encompassing. It’s pretty amazing.

I am glad they changed the star design; I think the new one is much better.

[-] GlitterNinja@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

My only gripe with the alterations of the submitted design is the star shape change.

I loved the big points in the cardinal directions with smaller points in between. I dislike this eight-pointed star.

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[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 24 points 11 months ago

Tricolor was better. 120%.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I would have sworn my eternal allegiance to the Polaris Tri-Color. This one is nice, especially for a state flag, but not inspiring.

[-] TheMadnessKing 11 points 11 months ago

I recently finished watching that video and NGL the tricolor with less toned colors looked pretty beautiful to me.

[-] growsomethinggood@reddthat.com 9 points 11 months ago

I like that they went with the simplified "K" shape for Minnesota (the reverse triangle is really clever visually) but I did also like the more colorful version better. Just a little too plain now for me.

[-] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 142 points 11 months ago

I don't even know what Minnesota's flag looked like.

Uh, no one is going to miss that.

[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 49 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Don't worry, Republican legislators are already in frothing rage about the change. I'm sure it has nothing to do with them wanting to keep the problematic imagery in the current one of native Americans being driven off their land. /s

Also they're spreading some conspiracy theory the new flag is supposed to look like the flag of Somalia or something and that this is a prelude to Sharia law being imposed. I wish I was joking. Yeah, because it has blue colors and a star in it, it must be an homage to Somalia, couldn't have anything to do with being the "land of 10,000 lakes" and "the north star state." Or even the old flag, which get this, is blue with a big star in it.

I also liked the version with the stripes better, but this is very nice too, and anything is better than the atrocious current one. The new seal with the loon is very nice too.

Other states that just lazily slapped their seals on to a blue background take note and get to fixing them up please.

New seal:

[-] IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago

Libtard snowflakes don't even know what a seal looks like. It sure ain't looks like a bird, I tell ya

[-] bufordt@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago

But loons are half bird/half seal with bitchin' red eyes.

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[-] jeremyparker@programming.dev 44 points 11 months ago

Racism aside, it's like an ugly Christmas sweater in flag form.

[-] wizzor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 11 months ago

I love it when someone can verbalize my feelings perfectly.

[-] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

I cant make out the racism. Is that supposed to be a slave? It looks like a taco bell employee the way hes dressed

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[-] Fisk400@feddit.nu 23 points 11 months ago

That is a terrible flag even without the racism. A good flag should be clearly identifiable as an emoji or at least a stamp.

[-] theKalash@feddit.ch 53 points 11 months ago

It's worse than the original design with the white/green/blue tri-colour on the right.

But still a big improvement.

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

I like how easy on the eyes it is.

It's actually pleasant to look at while not demanding your attention.

Solid flag.

[-] Lemmygizer@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago
[-] cybervseas@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

We need another "breaking flag news" update asap.

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[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 months ago

This is the only reason I clicked on this post as I reckonized this flag from his video.

[-] joel_feila@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago

Oh cgp grey's favorite won

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 11 months ago

It's still not the good colors though

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[-] cbarrick@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
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[-] cbarrick@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

The new flag is badass!

[-] harmsy@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

I just looked it up out of curiosity, and Minnesota's old flag is boring and generic AF. It was a member of the "state seal on blue" club.

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[-] Glemek@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

We'll be trying to get our hands on a nice flag with the original design#1953 on it to fly outside our house. This one is fine I guess, but it stings with what could have been.

[-] archiotterpup@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Anything is better than the seal on a blue sheet

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[-] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago

What the hell happened to the star‽ They took away its twinkley starriness. Now it just looks like a blurry circle

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[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

Cool flag. I like the solid light blue over the stripes that were an option, K.I.S.S..

Feel like with that simplified they could have done something with color a little more interesting than the dark blue to really emphasize the shape of that dark blue region but if you can't give this a 10/10 your standards are too high.

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[-] SaltySalamander@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

This is a great choice. That flag is probably now the best one in the Union.

[-] cybervseas@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

In my opinion Mew Mexico and Arizona are both better. I hope this encourages more states that are just "blue field with state seal" to make better flags. New York really needs help 😅

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[-] pantyhosewimp@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 11 months ago

The new one suffers from aluminimalism whereas the old one looks like something my mom would stick to the fridge with magnets to show how proud she was of my work in fifth grade that I spent all Thanksgiving afternoon working on by myself.

[-] fpslem@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I like it fine, and I bet you could incorporate those design elements into a lot of cool merch, which is a nice rule-of-thumb for useful flags.

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

B2 - Blue, white, green, with the same star - should have won, imo. But I don't live in the state, so my opinion is irrelevant.

[-] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

As a Texan, I approve of this design.

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