Technology

I can't afford that kind of money on a laptop!

I'm a Linux nerd FFS... I've never owned a new laptop in my life!

Honestly if the average person can’t buy it at Best Buy or Target, they won’t. Most people don’t know about this stuff.

Wherever a random coworker or family member asks me which of two laptops to buy, it’s always between a couple of prebuilt machine at a big box retailer.

I love the idea of Framework myself, but I can’t afford to buy one.

Too niche for the average buyer, too expensive for the rest of us.

My Thinkpad X1 Carbon 6th Gen is quite repairable thank you very much, and it was like 400 bucks, and it comes with an i7, 16gb of ram, and a 256gb ssd. It's only marketing that has people convinced they will fall behind unless they have the latest and greatest.

How much? With what money?

Come now, these products that cost 3x what they should don't get to claim it did not work out due to lack of demand. No one has pissing away money anymore and products made for some odd not rich but well off tech people is just not going to happen.

That’s because they’re really expensive and actually quite mediocre. I really wanted to love my framework, but the build quality is way worse than the price tag would suggest.

s/willing/can afford/

I bought a 13" years ago. I thought I would have upgraded the cpu/motherboard, battery, speakers, screen by now but I could never justify the cost for the benefit. So it is the same as the day I bought it. I have bought cheap laptops for kids schooling and had to replace one for what would have been a repairable fault on a Framework but there is a massive price difference and could not justify another Framework. It is a shame. Their stuff needs to be a lot cheaper but it is a chicken and egg with volume.

When they made a cheap "chromebook" class plastic school laptop for kids it ended up costing more than a vastly more powerful mac (even before Apple released their cheap models). The low volume manufacturing had heaps of problems reported on their forums. Its strictly for the fans sadly. People with lots of disposable income who buy one in every colour. I would have loved to buy a similar looking product at a mainstream price and with modern specs but it makes no sense with current cost of living pressures.

They are expensive up front. I have one of the first 11th generation Intel ones. I bought a new CPU fan last year instead of getting a new laptop. One of my kids dropped it, and I'll need a new screen for it here soon.

Instead of buying 3 laptops, I bought 1 and repaired it. Super worth it.

I would gladly buy one, if i had disposable income.

speaking of Framework. did anything turn out of their "big tent" approach as they were saying it? was there any continuation of that thing?

for those who have no idea, there was some controversy around Framework when they were collaborating with omarchy and its founder of some specific beliefs

I like the idea of owning one. Then I see the prices and I compare them with the prices of refurbished ThinkPads... (No, I don't need a new laptop)

Yes, pretend it's something wrong with the right idea (a repairable /upgradable device) and not the fact that America took a giant, wet trump all over the entire economy and a combo meal at mcdonalds is $16 with a small, non-refillabke drink and everything else is exponentially fucked from there.

Give us a reasonable pre-trump PC market, with this being a slight premium above that, do projections to normalize cost of ownership over say 10 years and it would grow. But we live here, so no.

I still have my 17" Satellite l300. Still runs briskly. On its third battery.

This is rage bait

I own one 🤷‍♂️ they’re expensive but I’d recommend em nonetheless

They’re on my list the next time I need one.

I bought one for myself, and a high spec one for my wife's business. Mine is just a personal machine but I've been using it as a portable home server in my various moves. Very happy with both. They didn't seem a crazy amount more than similar spec machines in Europe

I wanted to buy one, but they are veeery expensive, almost twice for a similarly specd laptop. Plus thet don't offer OLED screens.

I have a framework 13. Last week I noticed my battery had gone spicy pillow. Screwed it open, removed the battery and ordered a new one. A few days later I got the new battery, put it in and screwed everything back together. Took me less than 30 minutes in total, got original parts and not some sketchy Amazon crap, was less complicated than repairing my desktop PC. This is how you do repairable tech.

I was considering a framework but realized i didn't need a laptop. lol

Would like one, though!

I want one real, real bad. But buying anything with RAM and SSDs in it right now is off the table.

I also want a Steam Machine and an AM5 based desktop. Also not gonna happen.

I'm increasingly comfortable being in n the almost nobody category. You should be too, after all almost nobody uses Lemmy.