I’ll believe it when I see it. I have been hearing this since 2022 and they’re unleashing more and more ballistic missiles on Kyiv every week
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Man I dont know about the missiles. But yeah I feel we read this article every week. "Sanctions are about to grind russian economy to a halt", "Russias oil industry about to implode", "Russian war industry about to hit its limit".
It just never really seems to do so.
They have been having widespread fuel shortages but yeah, they can keep limping along until they cannot I guess.
The media tend to oversensationalize things, the Russian oil industry imploding isn't happening yet, but it has gone down to the point that nearly all of Russia is struggling to find enough fuel.
Killing off an economy takes forever, the effects of sanctions are slow, especially if an economy propped up by war time spending. But no amount of financial propping up can save an economy if its energy demands can't be met. To be fair, Ukraine isn't even close to disabling Russia's energy infrastructure, they're only seriously hitting one aspect of it.
I feel we read this article every week
No you haven't, for 2-3 years it was predicted, difference now is that it's actually happening.
Most of us thought Russia would collapse sooner, but now it's actually here. The Russian economy and infrastructure is collapsing, with widespread fuel-shortages despite heavy rationing, and fuel so expensive farmers can't afford to harvest.
The Russian federal economy is out of money, their wealth fund is used up, and they've sold gold reserves to get by beginning already months ago.
“Russian war industry about to hit its limit”
Where did you see that claim? Seems a lot like a straw man to me, because everybody have said all the time that the Russian war industry will be the last to be affected by the economic collapse. Because it has the highest priority.
No you haven't, for 2-3 years it was predicted, difference now is that it's actually happening.
yes we have. lemmy was basically flooded with garbage tier articles for the past years not predicting it but claiming it as current fact.
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It was predicted for more than 2 years, and it's happening now.
The Russian economy is collapsing, The Russian wealth fund is empty, and Russia has been selling gold reserves to prop up the economy, oil exports are dwindling, and they have to import refined oil products now at inflated prices.
The Russian infrastructure is collapsing too, and farmers can't get the harvest done, because fuel is either not available or too expensive so it will cost more to harvest than to let the crops rot in the field.
The fact that you are not seeing it, is not because it isn't happening.
I have no idea why so many upvote you not knowing what's going on.
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It happens slowly, then all at once
Absolutely, Putin has used extreme measures of kicking the can down the road, so it has been happening more slowly than expected. But now Putin and Russia are out of tricks, and things seems to be accelerating a lot now.
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You are seeing it, it is just very far away and doesn't happen all at once. Just as an organism can have 100 things wrong with it, be terminally ill and refuse to die for decades, a country can be in a tailspin of decline for a long time.
Russia has dwindling international partners, ever-fewer customers for its resources, crippling domestic fuel shortages, and a devastated working-age male population. Just as its taking a decade or more to finish crashing, they'll feel this for long after they stop doing the dumb things that have caused it.
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Part of the reason this happens is these changes take a lot longer than anyone would really like.
But, there are widespread fuel shortages in Russia, most of the country is facing some type of rationing, and that's something that hasn't happened before.
Oh look! The photon guy wants to see stuff. 😂
they’re unleashing more and more ballistic missiles on Kyiv every week
They don't though. They're still doing it, but they're not doing it more, and that's not for the lack of trying.
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Russian economy getting destroyed and Russia killing civillians are 2 different things.
They can keep up the murder for long, but they can say goodbye to their war goals.
We've been hearing the same idiots saying "sanctions didn't work immediately therefore they don't work" since 2022. Those of us with higher than room temperature IQs realised that Russia planned for the war and sanctions to the tune of a $600 billion savings fund.
I still find it hilarious that Russia left about half of this in hostile countries that confiscated it immediately. Imagine Russia had that extra cash? They probably would have had a chance of winning this war without that blunder.
I never said that sanctions don’t work to hurt a country’s economy. That part is evident.
However, very few wars have been ended by sanctions alone. So in that sense, no, they do not work anywhere near as well as everyone thinks they do.
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The number of missiles and drones launched by Russia has been fairly steady since last year, sure there are some peaks here and there, but on average the numbers don't go up, rather they've been going down slightly for the past few months. Ukraine's countermeasures have become much more effective though with less than 10% of drones making it through.
I specifically said ballistic missile attacks, which have gone up drastically
From a previous comment, I understand that they are being forced to use the significantly more expensive ballistic missiles, which use up fuel they can't afford to use, specifically because their drone success ratio is so far down lately.
All other military options they have are removed: artillery, infantry and armor get killed by drones. Russian drones get shot down before reaching target. They are hoping they can force a better settlement with the current terror bombings before they run out of fuel entirely
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It's not quite "more every week"; the numbers seem to be roughly stable since April. Of course it's still a lot.
One question that occurs to me is whether they can actually sustain this. Missiles aren't that cheap or fast to produce so it's possible that they're throwing out more than they can sustain in an attempt to wear down Ukraine at the last moment.
I'm not an expert on the weapon systems involved so maybe I'm way off base.
the numbers seem to be roughly stable since April.
The past week we've seen 2 massive attacks on Kyiv, the first was the biggest yet for the whole war, and the 2nd was almost as big.
But my guess is they were panic attacks by Putin, because he has nothing else he can do. And he wanted to retaliate for the attacks on refineries in Saint Petersburg and Moscow. That were both a very strong demonstration of power from Ukraine.
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I doubt the Russian economy will collapse as long as China supports it. And China will keep supporting it, because there is much to gain for them.
Every bit of support they give costs Russia something. Prestige, economic rights, even eventually land. In the end, they're going to pay.
Yes, the sick man of europe and asia won't be going anywhere any time soon. Nobody wants to take over Russia, and Russia doesn't have seccessationist movements. The only thing that will stop the war is Putin at this stage. Preferably in a casket.
Well the Russian economy is already collapsing, so where you get that idea from is kind of weird.
I'm not sure if we have the same idea when it comes to collapsing. In my mind it's a bit more than a shrinking economy and inconveniences for some things in daily life. I would say that a collapsing economy results in instability on many levels, high rates of joblessness, countless companies going bankrupt, societal unrest, rapid price fluctuations of practically everything, etc. Some of those things are happening in Russia, but not nearly enough to call it a collapse imo.
I don't really disagree with that, but much of that has actually been happening for some time. Many small companies have closed, but Putin has ordered banks to not declare companies bankrupt. which is why we haven't seen the big bankruptcies yet, and we haven't seen the unemployment yet. Regarding price fluctuations we have also already seen inflation increase despite high national bank interest rates that have helped keep it down. But it's estimated prices in Russia have increased by about 50% since Russia started the war 4½ year ago. There is also not social unrest yet, but there is frequent fighting in the lines to get fuel.
So almost everything you expect to see is happening. And some of it has already happened for a while. A collapse is not a sudden thing, especially for a country as big as Russia.
It's a gradual thing that happens over time, where things continue to get worse. And they've been getting worse in Russia for a couple of years, but now it's beginning to accelerate really fast.
Putin and Russia have been very good at kicking the can down the road, but now it's many cans, and the road is pretty steep now, so they can't really kick them much further.
I bet the point where you would call it clearly a collapse too is very close. Many Russians are comparing conditions now with the collapse of the Soviet Union, and people are talking outright against Putin, despite you can go to prison for that, and going to prison can easily be a death sentence.
Fair enough, perhaps I was wrong about thinking no collapse will happen soon. Time will tell. I suppose it could happen if the energy sector collapses, it will drag everything along with it, no help from China can stop that I think.
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Good. now GTFO from Ukraine!
Been hearing this longer than I’ve heard that Trump’s crimes are catching up to him
I hope Ukraine manages to keep up the exzra pressure by blowing up as much economically needed stuff as possible until putin gets kicked out of a window by his own people
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