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I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

i'll worry about it if and when it happens. i have wasted too much time, energy and resources worrying and catastrophizing about things i cannot control.

What the fuck can I do? Just be even more depressed about the state of the country

I’ll sigh, shake my head, and think, “That figures”. And then I’ll go to work, like every other day.

Lose my last shred of faith in this country, mostly

Well, I've got some rope, a candlestick, a revolver, a lead pipe and a nice knife; I wanted to keep my options open.

I already moved. It's not just Trump that's the problem, and even if he loses in 2024, or does in office, the issues still will persist. America needs to figure out how to make the judicial system work properly and norms need to be codified. Vast swaths of the population need to change their culture of "us vs them".

I won't be going back, the way things work with Republicans, you can't just move to a blue state, you have to move out of the country.

Usually I'd grab my bucket of popcorn and watch another 4 years of the shitshow that is US politics.

Unfortunately, this time the same kind of shitshow is happening across the pond in quite a few countries (not just the usual eastern ex-soviet states), including my country. Populist morons fueled by the Trump, Bolsonaro, Le pen, Orbán cookbook.

People are eating this up on social networks and voting for them. I feel it's going to get real nasty.

Voting.

Local. State. Federal. Like I always have. I also moved out of a "shithole" state in the words of our treasonous former president.

With China having a severe gender imbalance and a massive generation (age) imbalance, it's going to cause all sorts of problems for them soon. Big, big fucking problems. And Russia just had all their young men flee, die stupidly, or decide Russia might not be the best place after they've released shittons of violent offenders, lol. Russia's future looks dim at best. Iran isn't looking too healthy either.

So the bottom line is this: no matter where you go, you aren't outrunning a shift to a multipolar world, especially one where resources like fresh water and food will be getting more scarce as climate change fucks the world and countries get more desperate, particularly authoritarian ones that are losing a tenuous grip on their people. That shit always causes wars, because humans are too fucking stupid to prioritize science in any other context.

Countries with democracy and immigration and the means to defend themselves and their friends are your best bet. Our fate and your own fate are intrinsically linked because of that.

I imagine a number of famous people will talk about how they're moving to Canada, and don't.

Same as I've been doing since he won last time. Stay in my more liberal home state, extend understanding to friends and relatives who live in conservative states, extend invitations to the few who might need to move to keep themselves safe. Keep donating and volunteering with the organizations I've been supporting.

I have a friend who is thinking about seeking asylum in the US. I have encouraged her to weigh her other options; there are other countries where she has friends and family that might be more welcoming to her. If Trump gets elected, I'm not sure she'll even have a viable path to the US.

Set up monthly donations to the ACLU and Planned Parenthood, volunteer as a PP escort, open up my (Illinois) home to women and families who need to travel for reproductive healthcare.

This isn't off the top of my head, my spouse and I discussed it years ago, before the previous election.

Fortunate enough to also have EU citizenship, so I've already made arrangements to leave the country in that case. Will keep voting from overseas, though.

continue being annoyed by the level of corruption and incompetence of the US ruling class while existing in a visibly collapsing empire.

Its a time honored american tradition to shoot someone wearing red clothing thats trying to tell everyone what to do

Probably get sent to a concentration camp. Dunno if California will secede from the union to preserve human rights, if it comes between secession or letting the DHS collect all our immigrants and non-trad women.

Nothing I can do. Just do my best to finish out at college (assuming financial aid is still a thing) and move out of the country ASAP.

Be a constant reminder to my neighbors to avoid authoritarianism. Continue to push for self and local community reliance. Keep pushing my local governments and organizations to remain or become more inclusive.

Something new though? Maybe support an inclusive civics focused militia near me, if for no other reason so that marginalized people can feel like they have a community that will really fight for them or at least help them defend themselves if things really get that bad.

Donations to the ACLU. They seem like the best bet for the hardest fight of preserving the rights of immigrants. Among all the other things, they have to defend against as well.

Being an immigrant I'll likely have my plans made for me.

Buy a gun, I guess?

Send him Big Macs every single day and wait for him to have a heart attack.

I'm a queer immigrant so flee. I'm not sticking around for whatever comes after that unless we somehow get a significant majority in Congress

Make sure I have enough meds and reach out to friends to make sure they're safe and are able to get their HRT.

Wish I could say that I'd move to another country, but realistically I can't afford that. I'd guess I'd live life as normal but I'd always be paranoid at the increased risk of violence against trans people.

Start doing whatever I can to keep your conservatism out of canada

My boyfriend is Swiss, and there's been a loose open conversation over where we'd want to end up settling long-term. A second Trump term would definitely add several points in the Switzerland column.

Underground railroad for repressed minorities to escape.

Win or lose we're buying guns.

I would be surprised if he wins. It really feels like his time has passed. But if he does I will use resistbot to its fullest capacity.

I don’t think there will be a presidency after him if he does though. I think people generally underestimate the violence it will bring.

Not to mention, they are very used to making poor decisions (see: invasions of Afghanistan & Iraq) and also not fighting back when their elections are stolen or interfered with. (See: Brooks Brother Riot and Trump election)

Good luck dummies!

Continue living in not America. Continue, as an overseas voter, to vote for things I believe in. Do everything I can to get ranked choice to be a thing everywhere and otherwise eliminate the firat-past-the-post bullshit that exists today

Honestly I have no idea. I live in the midwest and I am rather poor, so I imagine I will just start hording canned food and glare at people through the curtains like usual

I'm working to set up connections to folks in Canada that will be willing to relocate LGBTQ folks across the border.

Hurry and buy a new graphics card before the prices go crazy again.