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Our car market is an absolute dumpster fire. That's what happens when you don't have a functional government.
It's extremely functional for billionaire+ rulers that govern government to their benefit.
For the past two or three decades congress has been able to do quite little outside of the massive omnibus budgets, since the budget is the ONE bill they are required by law to produce yearly. Obviously present conditions have worsened this divide but its been years since the govenrment has had any capacity to work together to produce anything in a substantial timeframe. This isnt even taking into account lobbyists and foreign agents from countries that aren't real that direct what small capacity politicians do have for each other to make more wars we don't call wars. The system is broken on multiple fundamental levels, replacing every single candidate and aide wouldn't even be a start.
US voters are left in a modern society that give us less free time than we had even 30 years ago and also pays us less taking into account inflation all with a political system that only works against them.
The U.S. government passes hundreds of bills per year. They do quite a lot for corporations and the wealthy. The corporate owned media just doesn’t report on the fact the government is functioning for who it serves.
Obviously present conditions have worsened this divide but its been years since the govenrment has had any capacity to work together to produce anything in a substantial timeframe.
To add to this: The government doesn't have any capacity to work together to produce anything in a substantial timeframe because in liberal democracy both the ruling class and the public get a (sometimes spotty) veto on the government can do, and in 21st century America those two groups agree on little to nothing.
Comparing EVs with ICE vehicles is just dumb. Toyota is nowhere close to selling an EV truck for $13000 in any country.
Yeah the headline is “Toyota sells the same thing for less!” But it’s not the same fucking thing.
Yes ,right on ,Toyota cars are mutch better dan american cars .
Your comment did not contribute to the conversation, but it's beautiful in its own right.
That's true, but a money crunch when your car dies looks the same to you whether your replacement is an ice car or an ev.
You can buy the Same Thing in the US right now for $15k
A motorcycle and a truck aren't really the same thing.
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plastic that dents and bounces back rather than cracking when a shopping cart finds it
So it's taken us this long to accomplish what Saturn did ~30 years ago?
Saturns were solid cheap cars
Neighbour has a Saturn Ion, 20+ years now, and it looks like new, no rust, it's grey plastic.
The magnificence of plastic that matches the color of the car, so scratches and dings were invisible, and I thought "well this is now they'll all be now" but instead they stopped doing it at all :(
I’ve always thought that it had something to do with manufacturing complexity. In metal doors the door itself is the frame of the door and everything is just attached to the metal. With a plastic panel you still need a metal frame to hold everything.
Car manufacturers make their money on replacement parts.
Nobody’s replacing the entire door panel for a dent, it’s dealerships that make money on scratch and dent repair. To be honest there would probably be more replacement parts the other way around because once you do actually manage to dent or scratch the plastic panel it does have to be replaced.
THANK you. There is indeed nothing new under the sun.
Slate is what a base model Saturn pickup would have been, with an aftermarket EV conversion kit (read shit power and range).
The 10 second 0-60 of my current ICE compact crossover SUV already gets me around town and on the freeway just fine. A 90s Toyota pickup I once had gave a 13 second 0-60. Slate Truck is 8 seconds. The Slate Truck isn't going to give Tesla acceleration, but hardly anyone needs that, and that's not what this is competing against. As far as horsepower, the Slate also beats both. So no, this doesn't have "shit power" it has expected or even above-average power compared to competing 4-cyl ICE vehicles.
I remember jumping on a door panel at a Saturn dealer as a kid.
Any concern with it being made of talc?
I don't know enough materials science or chemistry to say. I just remember Saturn having a whole ad campaign about their plastic body panels a few decades ago
Battery performance notwithstanding, it's the lack of telemetry in the Slate that really appeals to me. Pretty much every other contemporary vehicle will phone home everything you say and do in and around it so the manufacturer can squeeze a little more profit selling you out. The Slate is one of those last few vehicles you can buy and actually own.
Yes ugh — my Volvo is badgering me about a software update that folks online after only exacerbates the back-up camera lag.
Yeah, and surely Jeff Bezos won't change anything about that...
I heard 2028 he's releasing "slate bottles" so they can even come with bathrooms like his Amazon trucks!
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$10,000-to-$13,000 gasoline workhorse
Please. Getting a truck that is usable for actual work has become nearly impossible. Every damn truck is too damn big. Even the new Ford rangers are too damn big. We need beds that are just above tire level. I have to sling drywall and plywood I do not want to have to sling them over my head to get it in the bed. And I want that bed to be at least 6 ft long. Today they are often shorter than that. I need a truck that I can beat up. Not a truck I'm afraid to scratch. Necause when I buy a truck I intend to run it into the ground, not resell it.
The chicken tax has destroyed the usable truck market.
That and cash for clunkers
I think it’s worth noting that the demands of American roads drive the safety requirements. In America, there’s limited application for a “city car” or truck; just getting around most cities depends on travelling at highway speeds. Even with that said, the safety gear is really only tested for 50kph, not 120. The Hilux Champ is also not marketed in Europe or Australia. The models which are sold there are more expensive, because they won’t kill you in a 60kph crash.
The primary issue is protectionism via Chicken Tax, and there’s a really strong affinity to ‘murican made trucks, even if it nearly bankrupts the owner.
Why are they comparing an electric truck to a combustion truck? Out of all the things you could compare the Slate to, why this?
Much better to compare would be the Chery Rely R08 EV
https://electrek.co/2026/01/27/18000-chinese-ev-pickup-looks-like-toyota-hilux/
Toyota ICE car
there are zero toyota EV "trucks".
Shit box utes (utility vehicles aka trucks) of this size are a thing in Australia eg Toyota Hilux Workmate
Man I miss minitrucks, I had a Mazda B2200 when I was a kid that was just about as good on gas as my mk7 VW Golf. Utility wise it was a great and did everything I needed a truck to do.
How is it possible that Lemmy users seem unable to post in the correct community? It's just USA news 24x7 in every comm
TIL USA is outside of the world.
it’s called world news because you have news already!!