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A $25,000 electric truck with crank windows and no touchscreen is turning heads in America. Meanwhile, Toyota sells a $13,000 version globally—but keeps it out of the U.S.

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (6 children)

plastic that dents and bounces back rather than cracking when a shopping cart finds it

So it's taken us this long to accomplish what Saturn did ~30 years ago?

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Saturns were solid cheap cars

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Neighbour has a Saturn Ion, 20+ years now, and it looks like new, no rust, it's grey plastic.

[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The magnificence of plastic that matches the color of the car, so scratches and dings were invisible, and I thought "well this is now they'll all be now" but instead they stopped doing it at all :(

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

I’ve always thought that it had something to do with manufacturing complexity. In metal doors the door itself is the frame of the door and everything is just attached to the metal. With a plastic panel you still need a metal frame to hold everything.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Car manufacturers make their money on replacement parts.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Nobody’s replacing the entire door panel for a dent, it’s dealerships that make money on scratch and dent repair. To be honest there would probably be more replacement parts the other way around because once you do actually manage to dent or scratch the plastic panel it does have to be replaced.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

THANK you. There is indeed nothing new under the sun.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Slate is what a base model Saturn pickup would have been, with an aftermarket EV conversion kit (read shit power and range).

[–] forbiddencherry@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

The 10 second 0-60 of my current ICE compact crossover SUV already gets me around town and on the freeway just fine. A 90s Toyota pickup I once had gave a 13 second 0-60. Slate Truck is 8 seconds. The Slate Truck isn't going to give Tesla acceleration, but hardly anyone needs that, and that's not what this is competing against. As far as horsepower, the Slate also beats both. So no, this doesn't have "shit power" it has expected or even above-average power compared to competing 4-cyl ICE vehicles.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I remember jumping on a door panel at a Saturn dealer as a kid.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Any concern with it being made of talc?

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't know enough materials science or chemistry to say. I just remember Saturn having a whole ad campaign about their plastic body panels a few decades ago