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[–] rozodru@piefed.world 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

yup this is me, 25 years in the industry and I'm getting out for my birthday in October. I can't do it anymore, sick of it. I had hoped that CTOs and various managers would have turned their backs on ai agents after the absolute cluster fuck they've all collectively witnessed first hand but no, they doubled and tripled down. I've lost hope.

I've lost hope of a bubble bursting and what have you. I don't think it's going happen now. months ago I said "any day now" but how I've seen them all dig their feet in they're in for the long haul regardless of what it will cost them. they're all in too deep and are going to make this thing "work" even if it kills people.

So I'm out. Good luck to everyone else, but i have no more faith.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

They're asking us to scale back our usage.

I give it another year. The markets are souring on it, big time. Unless something big and good happens w/ spaceX (because retail investors are underwater on that) the next set of AI IPOs are going to be a disaster.

Ask yourself why all these companies are scrambling to IPO now. Thier investors see the writing on the wall: it isn't going to happen. The breakthrough. The singularity. An army of virtual workers with the ability to actually do the job. The only thing left for investors to do is push the IPOs to get any kind of return.

They think we're at a peak of perceived value, and a higher plateau isn't anywhere in the foreseeable future. Judging by how quickly ALL these private companies are suddenly interested in IPOs, I actually think they think they've passed the peak already and are sliding.

You gotta understand, the C-Suite, even the CTO, need to collectively "paint a picture" for investors. And that is art, and art is subjective. If investors wanna hear "we are prepared to leverage a new technology so that we can remain competitive", then you gotta paint that picture. The buy in, the double down... take it for what it's worth.

Did you think your C-Suite has ever actually been honest with you about plans, priorities, the value proposition of your work... anything really? Don't ever confuse what they "say" with what the actually think or believe.

You SHOULD quit, I WISH I was in a position to do so. I'd spin by we could crack a cold one. Hella jealous.

Just like... for your soul... don't think this is the new normal. Some neat and good and useful stuff is going to come out of this... but the impact that this tech will have on the workforce is being wildly overestimated.

[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

I’m only 41 and I’m tapping out too

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 26 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I hope to be on that path. I’m in my 40s and tired of the grind. Nowhere close to retirement yet, but I am likely on track to pay off my house early in the next two years (maybe 7 years into a 30 year mortgage) which will go a long way.

I’m saving as much as I can and hoping I can retire lean in my mid or late 50s.

Right now though all I can think of is that I need a sabbatical after my current job ends (either layoffs or just quitting) because I really need a break.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Best of luck to you. I'm in a similar boat, but thankful I have a good job I don't dread that makes an effort to take good care of me. I'm on track to retire in my 50's, but if my investments do better than expected and I hit my number earlier, I'm out.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Institutionalization.

It's like that one movie...pretty sure its Shawshank Redemption? There's that one guy that gets out of jail and then commits suicide in a few months or so, because he can't handle the real world after spending most of their life in jail.

I think work operates in a similar way...but the cruelty of the trap is that the things that make life worth living, i.e. hobbies, friends, a life outside of work, etc. kind of interferes with your ability to get that high level income you need for early retirement.

I think a lot of people that work even though they have the means to live comfortably for the rest of their lives are there because...work is their entire life. They have nothing outside of it. No purpose.

We talk about retirement as a question of resources: do we have the financial resources to live x years? What we don't talk about is every other resource. Social, emotional, physical (in the does your body work sense) etc. Sure, you've got the house and the money...but your friends are all at work, and making new ones is pretty hard...even if you manage to make bank and retire in your mid 30s.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 68 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Dammit, they’re gonna buy up all the remote small farms.

[–] comador@lemmy.world 25 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

quote: "Otteson and his wife plan to sell their home in Redmond and move somewhere with lower costs of living, such as Vancouver, Wash., or Hillsboro, Oregon".

Not surprised one bit as this has been an ongoing trend for techies in the SF Bay area to Seattle for decades.

It'll be less a problem with small offgrid farms and more an issue for rural to suburban areas with full utilities because most of these people have no clue how to farm.

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 31 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

As someone who has never farmed, I don't understand why people think they'll retire through farming, arguably one of the most back breaking jobs with least pay to produce stuff that costs the least out of anything... And is due to become more and more difficult as climate change gets complex.

This is not the type of manual labor you want to learn how to do and invest in as you're older?

But yeah maybe managing some chickens and an herb farm, whatever that's not a big deal. I just would expect to only be supplementing what groceries you buy as a hobby, not homesteading. Don't get fucking acres of farmland that you won't know how to use... Grow some rosemary and thyme, maybe potatoes. Fuck even one fruit tree is a lot of work. Try that out first. Potatoes! Try stuff you can do with a balcony first. Maybe a goat if you're really wild.

But these are hobbies, not retirement income.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 26 points 10 hours ago

I assume people just mean having a small garden maybe a few chickens not full blown farming.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 8 points 7 hours ago

You're right about some things but theres a few misconceptions here.

Farming is not back breaking work. Unless you grow a crop of potatoes or strawberries and try to harvest them yourself.

Here with a not-very-big farm you could grow hay to sell as fodder. Thats a few days on a tractor to seed then a few days on a tractor to cut and wrap.

You could also just lease the land to another farmer for them to run their livestock.

On a farm any larger than a few house blocks you e got a huge asset that kind of cant avoid producing value in some way.

The other aspect of retirement is that the objective usually is to avoid spending money rather than making money. You're right that growing a few of your own herbs is not going to save much money.

If youve got room and time then growing most of your own food doesn't really require "homesteading". Get a cow butchered, give half to the neighbour, that and eggs and chickens can be your protein for 6 months, then the neighbour gives you half their cow and so on.

The keys are time, area, and rural contacts. Yes you wont have the latest gadgets - you'd have e to pay for those from your pension - but the lifestyle is very survivable.

[–] kiku@feddit.org 22 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I think most people think about it more if the second way you described (as kind of a small retirement hobby, not to earn much money).

Tech workers spend all of their time working on abstract problems that have no end and spend all their energy to produce something intangible that must indefinitely be maintained.

They see farming as the exact opposite of this: something they can work on with their hands in the dirt, that eventually bears fruit that you can hold in the palm of your hand, and even eat yourself and personally benefit from.

This is much more an urge to return to nature and the feeling of actual accomplishment rather than an actual business plan. It doesn't really matter how it goes financially because they already have enough money to retire.

[–] severalkittens@ani.social 7 points 8 hours ago

Absolutely this. It's why I love working on my old cars as a hobby. There's just something therapeutic about getting your hands dirty for a tangible outcome that you can then enjoy after a week of daily standups

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

They are taking early retirement. Shit, I'd be on a hobby farm now if I could afford it.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Hillsboro has a pretty high cost of living

[–] comador@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yup. They should go to 'Methford', Oregon instead...

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago

That comes with it's own disadvantages :)

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Even worse: They’ll turn the small farms into suburbs.

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 25 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah 30 years at Microsoft, with bonus and stock options etc can give you retirement at 55yo, but all the others programmers like me that went through some companies (that where bought by bigger one and stripped out), forget it, it will be 65yo or more.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

That’s me. Working local jobs with rather unambitious colleagues. I’ve worked for construction, property management, a digital marketplace, and professional services for retirees. All small local organizations. Only one of which with an internal dev team. None of which had any customer facing products in the analytical space.

My entire career has existed under the rock of entrepreneurial blindness toward disciplined engineering. Someone starts a business, it starts doing okay, and eventually they realize they have “too much data” and “don’t know what to do with it.” Then I come into the picture, saying all these big funny works like Governance, Catalog, … they hire me. I get their BI section working good enough that I get bored of being there. They eventually refuse to give me meaningful raises and I leave shortly after that.

Wish I had more money. I’ve gone from 60k -> 80k -> 85k -> 110k after each job transition. I’m still paycheck to paycheck with no savings and a car that only half runs.

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

You could say the same of aerospace companies

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

I'm absolutely looking to retire at the earliest possible time. I am looking to move to Europe for semi-retirement once we get a couple things paid off here. I have no interest in being one of those guys in my office who are 80, even 90!!, and still working.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's never been a better time to cash out those 401ks full of tech stocks.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Well, maybe six months ago. Or pretty much any time before March.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 54 minutes ago

QQQ and VOO are both up handsomely year-to-date.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

DOW is back over 51k. That means everything is good and nobody is allowed to complain.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

FYI, DOW doesn't stand for anything. "Dow" is commonly used to refer to the "Dow Jones Industrial Average."

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They weren't implying it was an acronym. They were just shouting DOW at you.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

NNNNNAAAAASSSSDDDDAAAAAAQ!!!!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Dow stands for Charlies Dow, the co-founder of Dow Jones & Company.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No, his name is Dow. DOW doesn't stand for anything.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

DOW is just his name in capital letters

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

THIS IS JUST A COMMENT IN CAPITAL LETTERS

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

And yet, you knew what they meant.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, this time I managed to figure it out. Next time they screw up an acronym, somebody else might not.

[–] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Holy fuck, you'd have fun in the military.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Nobody would be having any fun.