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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 57 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

One Democratic lawmaker sitting in a battleground district told CNN that they are so concerned about the rise of the Democratic Socialists of America that they have recently begun having serious conversations with donors about leaving the party altogether.

The fact that their impulse is to get their donors opinions instead of their constituents is why they need to be primaried.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

leaving the party altogether

Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

All these Bloombergcrats just piled into the party a few years ago, then realized Epstein wasn't around anymore and decided to bail.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Exactly, the only question anybody needs to be asking them is who's interests do you actually represent? Because it's become increasingly obvious that donors of certain Dems have basically hired them to fumble the ball and enable Republicans stay in power.

I think American Oligarchs realized decades ago that creating the conditions that lead to voter apathy and provide credibility to "both sides" arguments, would probably be a cheaper and more effective strategy than convincing a majority of people to actually vote against their own interests.

Not to mention this threat to leave the party bullshit is basically the same as the threat to leave California and NYC bc of wealth tax. Fucking go then and don't let the door hit you on the way out, because you're probably responsible for ~95% of the problem. All you've done is exploit people and help weaken democracy.

Anybody who believes it makes a lick of fucking sense to keep pretending the U.S. is the greatest country in the world and social safety nets are unnecessary, (while most Americans are now struggling to afford groceries, let alone healthcare and education), has already switched teams. They might as well put on their "corporations R people 2!" jersey and own who they've been representing this whole time.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Anybody who believes it makes a lick of fucking sense to keep pretending the U.S. is the greatest country in the world and social safety nets are unnecessary...has already switched teams.

YUP. And the most infuriating part is that, since about Reagan, the left bave been the ones that been told we must acquiesce to centrists, that we couldn't win elections without, "moderates," that we had to accommodate Clinton and the third-way crowd.

Now, after a decade of slow declined followed by a decade of rapid collapse, it's clear that the centrists can't win in this political landscape. Do the party leaders see where the wind is blowing, listen to the voters, follow the progressives' victories, and tack to the left? Nope! They act as though pushing for social spending and welfare programs, AKA what the Democratic party stood for since FDR, is some sort of betrayal.

Moving to the right? "Look, we need a big tent, but we're all on the same team!" Moving back to the left in the slightest? "Fuck you, I'm quitting the team."

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[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 43 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Status quo democrats right now.

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This gif might be the best thing to come out this year.

[–] FLP22012005@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I hope we're going to get a lot of use of of it.

[–] FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago (6 children)

"Let them" ? Excuse me?

Mother fucker in a real democracy YOU don't have any say in the matter. What you're seeing happen is the will of the people. Yes, you will "let us" vote for the candidates that we want to vote for.

Try to take that away, it's about all we (barely) have left. See what happens.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 33 points 6 days ago

"them" are the constituents and if they're taking over the party, it's working as intended.

[–] caboose2006@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

If that's what the people want, yes.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

“If you ask me, it was not a good night for New York,” Rep. Greg Meeks, a powerful New York Democrat who is close with House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, told CNN..

... Meeks added: “Instead of us making sure we put all of our resources to fight Republicans and to fight Donald Trump, we’re using it to fight each other. It just doesn’t make common sense to me.”

So close to a revelation...

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 33 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"Oh my God! What if they take over and start doing things that actually benefit people?"

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Won't somebody think of the rich donors!?

[–] Denalduh@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

sharpening guillotine blade

Mmm rich donors.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

Controlled opposition cries that actual opposition is taking some Ws. Keep them crying. Or just hang them.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Bluedragon012@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

This what you get got not listening. Cry some more. I look forward to the downfall. Socialists will rise because the DNC fell deep into greed.

[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

Maybe all Dem centrists can finally move to the Republican Party where they belong

Not your choice. Sucks to suck

[–] KaChilde@sh.itjust.works 29 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Really just yelling the quiet part to the nosebleeds, aren’t they?

It was never about helping their constituents. The moment someone outside of their inner circle becomes popular, the facade drops and it’s all about voting ‘correctly’ and the popular person ‘stealing’ the vote.

At least they pretended to not be vicious ghouls who don’t care about actual humans when they skipped over Bernie to hand the election to Trump.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 9 points 6 days ago

At least they pretended to not be vicious ghouls who don’t care about actual humans when they skipped over Bernie to hand the election to Trump.

It makes me sad that we will never see Bernie debate Trump.

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

“Obviously, the socialists had a big win last night. The question is, are we going to let them take over the party? Or are we going to stand up and fight back?” said Rep. Josh Gottheimer of New Jersey, a moderate Democrat who has criticized Mamdani’s politics and how he’s addressed allies of Israel. “Many of us believe, as I do, that if you’re a socialist, you’re not a Democrat.”

Get fucked Josh, also...

A democrat (lowercase "d") is broadly defined as a person who advocates for democracy and believes in the principles of political or social equality.

The name of your party, would disagree with your assessment. Also, the fact that your party used to represent the Jim Crow south and opposed civil liberties for non-whites, while, thankfully, it is now the one championing (at least comparatively against the Republicans) racial civil liberties and equality, means that your party has changed before and changed for the better. It changed to more closely align to the definition of the word. It can and will continue to change becuase, famously, change is the only thing that is permanent. And hopefully it changes to align even closer still to that definition. If you think you are representing equality while championing capitalism, corporatocracy, military dominance, and supporting apartheid and genocide states, well you need to either get a reality check or lose your job. And if your party is full of asshats like you, it might need an overhaul.

[–] bugbearownsyou@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

The idea of a moderate Democrat standing up and fighting back for anything is so patently absurd at this point.

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[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Let's hope they don't get a say.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The Democratic Party is a private institution that is not obligated to follow the will of their voters. If their divergence from national policy polling is not enough, it was stated directly by their lawyers during the lawsuits related to their suppression of the Bernie Sanders campaign.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I absolutely agree. I want to be clear. I hope the DNC gets no say on the future of the American left. They fumbled it.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The DNC exists largely to block the will of the voters, especially anything even vaguely leftish.

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[–] valar@lemmy.ca 22 points 6 days ago

"Many of us believe, as I do, that if you’re a socialist, you’re not a Democrat.”

Why thank you, no I am not.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 11 points 6 days ago

Keep going. This is the only way you're going to get any change short of all-out civil war.

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What's crazy is the Democrats in power could have protected their seats with just a modicum of spine when it comes to trump. Something just slightly more than a strongly worded letter would have kept many casual "I-don't-follow-politics" voters blinded. But they are so incompetent that they couldn't even do that. And now they are surprised when they get challenged on it?????

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

It's not a lack of spine. We've been saying it for a while now. They don't serve the voters.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

AIPAC and fascist Israeli interests are not welcome. Bye Felicia

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 14 points 6 days ago

If there was ever any doubt that the DNC was bought and paid for this ought to remedy that, when faced with a popular platform they fear how their opposition’s adherents

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Rather than meeting voters where they are, leadership dems plot to suppress would-be future leaders. Same playbook they used on Bernie in 2020.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago

If you want to win the next election, I'd advise you to seriously consider it.

[–] orenj@leminal.space 6 points 6 days ago

They'd better

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 5 points 6 days ago

No, they won’t let us.

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