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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

My work mandated we use the copilot. And the only thing I have found it really good at is converting or extracting information from a PDF to build me a spreadsheet. The native conversion programs in both Adobe and Excel suck so bad.

I have some suppliers who won't send a spreadsheet or CSV nothing that is data, only a PDF.

It's a stupid and computationally expensive way to do it but does solve a problem for me, a problem that doesn't need to exist at all but has frustrated me for years.

Two birds, one stone. I can honestly say to my boss that I am using the copilot for work, and it's a workaround for the insufficient reporting I get from our payroll provider in particular, but also some bulk invoices that are detailed and only come as PDF.

So yes I am in this group. I've only used it for file type conversion, and once to "write" a process document just so it would be formatted in Word, I went in and wrote over most of it.

[–] nevyn@slrpnk.net 2 points 15 hours ago

Wow, terrible news that companies that use ai are completely fcking themselves over. Whatever will we do to save the selfish prcks?

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If my boss would mandate the use of LLMs I would definitely abuse it to rack up the bill.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I already am.

I just debugged a report, found the issue almost right away. A missing number in a GROUP BY clause.

Well if you're measuring what I do through LLM use, the Claude is fixing it instead. Hope that dollar was worth it!

[–] crispbacon99@lemmy.zip 2 points 15 hours ago

I like to race the ai on most tasks and find myself winning on anything of substance. Sure SOME mundane tasks can be done but does it out weight the energy and infrastructure costs as well as reputation and morale.

Even after all that you STILL need a human double checking and inputting the information.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Really? Been a minute since I have done a presentation, but:

Pandoc PDF to Markdown.

Markdown to paste into your favorite HTML presentation tool.

Nobody is stupid enough to still use Powerpoint right? Right?

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unless mandated by the corporation (which are the same people forced to use AI for absolutely everything now)

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mandated to use PowerPoint? That would suck. Html markdown presentations are easily shared, require no additional software and make so much sense.

Oh right, "make sense". Nevermind, I get it. The corporate world has no time for that!

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yup, can attest. It sucks. Unless the application is listed on our approved app list I can't even request it. Let alone the months it can take IT to get around to installing it for me.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

try a hedgedoc hosted by a random someone. maybe cryptpad.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Any markdown render will do. VSCode, pandoc, heck many web pages, etc.

You just write in markdown.

Edit: unless you meant pandoc, but I don't think it requires an install either.

Or the 'modern workflow' version of tell the AI you want to convert the PDF, so it burns a bunch of tokens installing pandoc and converting it for you!

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Reminds me of companies getting their cloud computing bills.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"We need cloud computing!!!!"

5 minutes later: "Ok a monolith is good enough"

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Both of those statements hurt my soul, damn, why do you have to do that to me. On a Friday no less

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's friday and your boss wants to move everything over to a blockchain. He says it will only take an hour tops.

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup. I've had the same thoughts. There are many who still think its insane to have your own equipment. Now there will be those who think its insane to do your own thinking.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Yeah, but you get to exchange cap-ex for op-ex!

Nevermind that running a 48 core server in Azure with 16TB of managed disks is going to run about 21k a year, and you can practically buy a new server for that price.

My company is tossing out their "old" equipment right now, which is why I have a nice server humming away in my basement right now.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago

a big source of AI token ‘chewing’ is people just converting PDFs to presentations

I haven't been this happy in over a year.

giggles

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The funny thing is that even with this massive overspending, AI companies aren't profitable. They need these companies to spend 10x the amount per token, and 10x the number of tokens. Probably 10x the number of customers too.

Burning energy, draining water, spending massive cash so they can lose money on a product that doesn't even do its job. How the hell has the bubble not popped yet...

[–] WrathEnchanter@europe.pub 19 points 1 day ago

The Stock market is literally just vibes. As long as everyone believes, it will somehow be profitable in the future, the line will keep ging up

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[–] Bacano@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Switching from human labor to AI is like going straight to a unionized workforce, except it's not a collection of reasonable human beings with human needs, it's a well funded machine with only exponential profit in mind

[–] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

Seriously. A human workforce could never dream of being capable of the same insatiable greed as the gigacorps trying to sell AI.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

Ooh, I think I'll start using CoPilot to do basic math and unit conversions in addition to doing them the correct way. Then I can note in my goals & reviews how I have been utilizing the AI resource and keeping tabs on its advancement.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago (1 children)
  • Replace workforce with AI because it's easy to be lazy with AI.
  • Remaining workforce uses AI to be lazy.
  • SurprisedPikachu.webp
[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Ew, webp. Chatgpt, convert that shit for me

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 72 points 2 days ago (7 children)

This is 100% the thesis I've been shopping personally... Many Boomers and Xers in executive positions had a "magical millennial" that they quietly kept as a secret "AI" to split/edit PDFs, set up an Airtable base, add columns to a google doc, etc. There was a tacit, silent agreement in this symbiotic relationship for the bulk of the last 20 years - you'll make sure I don't look completely incompetent in tech matters and I'll backchannel on your behalf to senior leaders and people who "matter" to help you advance.

Gen AI essentially allows the laziest input, gives a half competent output that "feels" fine and has the bonus of telling the boomer/Xer that they are actually amazingly capable, and could have done this themselves all along even, but they rightly delegated the task to their magical millennial, and now to the AI of choice.

So they fired all the magical millennials, because they knew too much about the before times. Now that they are fucked without a life raft, costs soar and they will cling for dear life because they will be exposed otherwise.

Edit: through a twist of fate, the iPad kids grew up technically incapable and relied on the magical millenials as well. They could only offer praise and loyalty really, or a boomer, Xer recruited them in and talked the MM up as a "wiz" to seek out. Anyway, now that the MM are gone, the Zoomers and gen Alpha kids only have one strength remaining, the old people have no idea what they are doing or how to quantify their success, outside of "use more AI". So the fragile balance remains for now, with a vulnerable, hollow center where the magical millennials used to live.

[–] kshade@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I'm a Millennial and work in IT. We aren't magical. There's competent and incompetent people in all age groups. I wouldn't even say we had better starting conditions overall because being good with tech was seen as cringe nerd stuff when I grew up.

I think your theory is mostly right though, just along the lines of competent/incompetent. So many people constantly choose what they believe the path of least resistance with tech, even if it actually isn't. Don't spend one or two minutes to learn how to save to PDF in Word, instead google "word to pdf" and upload whatever sensitive data you have in that DOCX to some shady website.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm surrounded by this shit, and it seems to come from all generations. My boss, who is my age, called me because her computer was frozen and she wanted me to fix it. "I was like, turn it off and on again, this is the first, most basic rule of troubleshooting." Meanwhile the boomer next to me is having me do shit like attach files to a fucking email.

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[–] Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is the most profitable consultant in the world, can't they just afford to run a local llm?

[–] dtrain@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I heard about a company that was looking at purchasing machines to run local llms for their developers to use.

If more companies do this, rather than using the massive ai data centers being built…. the RAMpocolypse will get way worse.

[–] Chaf@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That is the part that pains me to admit - running local LLMs is not a solution to the RAMpocalypse. In that case we'd just have more GPUs and RAM idling for ~90% of the time in someones basement, without being shared. As bad as it sounds, having data centers for AI stuff is actually the more ecological solution. I can't believe I said that. Excuse me, I have to take a shower now *shudder*

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[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 38 points 2 days ago

Eat shit you greedy corporate assholes, i hope all of your companies are damaged beyond recovery, you useless fucking tools.

[–] haerrii@feddit.org 123 points 2 days ago (1 children)

that came after Uber told employees to use AI as much as possible and Uber’s CTO said the company had blown its entire AI budget in four months

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 112 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Further evidence that most CEO's and SLT's are just confident, lucky, and born wealthy; not competent, smarter, or much better than average.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 101 points 2 days ago (29 children)

AI is about to join the list of "stupid technologies that people should really wait and see before investing on", which includes

  • 3D TVs - complete dud
  • Blockchain - useless for real world problems already solved by typical computing
  • Metaverse - still one of the best jokes around
  • Folding screen phones - overpriced junk
  • Fully autonomous self driving cars - "Just around the corner" for the past 10 years
[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Don't forget NFTs... though I guess that can fall under blockchain.

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[–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 66 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (18 children)

Folding Phones Sales Continue To Increase since 2019, showing people seem to like them

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