xAI buried inside SpaceX wasn't enough to make them uncomfortable?
this post was submitted on 19 Jun 2026
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It's worse than that... what they IPO with is basically a tiny percentage of SpaceX composed solely of xAI
The entire stock market is basically 99.9% blind speculation and 0.1% basic math, which is why it rarely makes sense
It's not even a surprise, this is from SpaceX s-1 document: only 7% of their estimated valuation is from Space related activities
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That's what I was referencing, I'm surprised the regulators and the exchange let that happen
You are surprised that the people doing this during Occupy Wall Street are allowing this?
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there are no rules anymore man… they just change them to rig the game in plain light… no ill consequences for the rich
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The corporate governance arrangements (or lack thereof) should be enough to make any investor with two functioning brain cells stay well clear. But the stock market has lost all touch with reality long ago. The crash will be brutal. And small investors will hold the bag, as per standard procedure.
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One should note that the stock is still up $50 per share up from its IPO price ($135 vs $185 or about 37%). Also the Cursor option was fully outlined before the IPO so it shouldn't surprise anyone.
Not that I don't think all of this is dumb, it's just another hype / gambling stock without much substance led by Elon who got his Twitter buyout.
No crying in the casino
The only people that got in below 160 a share are insiders, space x employees and institutional investments. That's why they did a day 1 rug pull when the stock reached 180. They made sure no matter what was gonna happen, they weren't going to be the bag holders.
I got three shares at $158 just to see if I was fast enough. Sold it at ~200 a bit later because I'm too poor to hold the bag.
The valuation of the stock is based on Musk doing what he's always done, which is making seemingly impossible promises sometime in the future.
You know what he promised by 2025? A fleet of driverless Tesla taxis. xAI producing the first AGI. A human being on Mars planting a flag.
You know what the evaluation of SpaceX is based on? The promise of a Mars colony with one million human inhabitants, and space-based data centers. It's going to be decades before it's worth the IPO, if ever.
In the meantime SpaceX is in debt 20 billion, and is bleeding money. It lost $4.94 billion in 2025.
So it looks to me like a private equity project. Like Toys 'R Us or Radio Shack or Claire's. Remember those?
And Nasdaq-100 is fast-tracking SpaceX into its portfolio after 15 days. Soon, pension funds and 401(k)s are going to feature SpaceX stocks. So when it does implode, a lot of worker-class folk are going to eat the loss.
You know who I bet will not be eating the loss? Trillionaire Elon Musk.
Jesus Christ thank you for reminding me to confirm I keep his shit as far away from my pension as possible. Thankfully I'm in Canada so I feel there's a hope
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Soon, pension funds and 401(k)s are going to feature SpaceX stocks.
Not mine. I'm selling my NASDAQ index fund next week. Thankfully the S&P said no.
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Initial price was $135. Then it climbed to $210ish. Now $185.
Pretty regular stuff for a new IPO meme stock. Don't go on the ride if you don't like the speed.
There is literally nothing but hope behind the valuation. Same as Tesla. Just dreams and hopes.
That’s not true, it’s betting on American corruption…which is a pretty good bet.
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Yup.
I, like you, am expecting this to be a monumental failure, but this shit's normal.
World's first ex-trillionaire , yes?
Nope. Since everyone bought his shares he got to keep their money
By that logic he's not a trillionaire at all. They only sold 4% of the company for some 68 billion USD. A trillion dollars was never liquidated.
Edit: 4.3% and 75 billion are the correct numbers.
He gets to borrow against the shares as if he has that trillion in cash.
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Sure would be nice to have some food, affordable housing, and healthcare…
Down 6%.
The line wiggled a bit.
I think you mean PLUNGED or DECIMATED!
/s
Also I’m sick of these words in titles. As you said it’s barely a ripple overall.
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I get it. I have a uniquely shaped rock that I found in a ditch. I value that thing at about 530 billion dollars. /s
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They diluted the stock 3.4% in less than a week of trading 🤣. Invest with Musk at your own risk.
It was already stupidly diluted. Dumbest investment out there with only one way to go.
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That drop is more than it’s worth.
I hope every Nazi piece of shit with money in this ends up destitute as fuck.
They're making an exception to put it into index funds more quickly than is ordinarily allowed, so a lot of normal people might end up holding it too...
That is a great point.
The SP500 refused to allow SpaceX in on an accelerated schedule, so its usually vetting process would still apply (12 months of public trading, positive earnings for a period of time, etc).
So right now, SP500 is one index fund that isn’t taking a risk on SpaceX, which I, in my tiny knowledge of stocks and finance, appreciate.
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It's the simplest idea in the world, if a company's outgoings are more than it's income then how is it going to generate profit for the shareholders? How did no one think of this?
The stock market doesn't work like this anymore and hasn't for several years... maybe decades. Share price is completely decoupled from fundamentals. The way you make money for shareholders is by getting the stock price to go up and what the actual company does or doesn't do is not particularly a consideration anymore.
I go one step further and say that I personally believe the market itself is rigged, has been rigged since just after 2008. It is fully under control by dark pools, algorithms, HFT and AI. We will never again see an appreciable crash in the market, just things which vaguely resemble "normal" market action as the overall line continues to go ever upward.
The stock market is now fully a money-generating machine for the Epstein class. I have been saying this since about 2014 when I read Flash Boys by Michael Lewis and the Dow was at 18,103, Nasdaq 4,773. Even today with this news, the Dow is up currently 72 at 51,564 and the Nasdaq is up 496 at 26,517.
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Once again, wealth trickles up to the billionaires.
Capitalism! Gotta love it, or not.
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Money isn't real.
Are they shocked that Elon has no respect for their share holder opinion?
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Ahahahaha, I really hope someone ate their lunch on this wonderful stock
SpaceX on Tuesday disclosed it would acquire Cursor for $60 billion in stock, representing roughly 3.4% dilution—meaning investor stakes will represent a smaller percentage of the company—of SpaceX’s $1.77 trillion IPO valuation.
I never understood this. Dilution should require a vote from owners.
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Just imagine how many problems 600bn USD would solve. Instead, it's just fake virtual currency flowing through the hands of a few billionaires
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nice. i love seeing fElon companies doing badly!
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