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The Olinia Uno is a planned six-passenger car that can travel up to 125 kilometers (77 miles) on a single charge. It is expected to go on sale next summer for about 150,000 Mexican pesos or roughly $8,500, according to a press release.

The car is designed for urban settings and has a top speed of 50 kilometers (31 miles) per hour.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

It's a golf cart. But these have utility around Mexico city.

"We should not let them into our country,” Farley said during an appearance on Fox & Friends, according to Bloomberg. “Manufacturing is the heart and soul of our country, and for us to lose that to those exports would be devastating to our country.”

Ford CEO Jim Farley is so full of shit. Ford is making trucks in Mexico and Canada and no longer has lower cost options, just big stupid trucks with plastic engine oil pans.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

plastic engine oil pans.

I had to do a double-take. Holy crap you're not kidding. Considering that it's a feature of metal pans to deform (instead of cracking or breaking) when colliding with something, switching to a brittle material is just asinine. WTF, Ford?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

Farley also told media there is a shortage of mechanics at car dealers making $120,000 a year. No flat rate Ford mechanic makes that.

Farley lies so much he should get into politics.

You can also find videos of Ford mechanics finding new vehicles with cobbled brackets because of parts shortages.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean, it's not as bad as their timing belts running in oil

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“Manufacturing is the heart and soul of our country

Fucking what?

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Mexico has 36M cars currently on the road. I would be more worried if I was an American selling into the Mexican market

Sen. Elissa Slotkin and Rep. Haley Stevens recently introduced the Protecting America from Chinese Cars Act, which aims to ban connected cars built or designed in China, as well as other adversarial countries like Russia and Iran, from entering the U.S.

Love a bipartisan commitment to bad economic policy

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 months ago

ban connected cars

Does that mean that unconnected Chinese cars are OK? Talk about a win-win...

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

"Protect us from Chinese cars", fuck these dipshits. Have they ever considered protecting us from crushing poverty or environmental collapse? "OH MUH GOD ITS A CHINA CAR!! TAKE COVER!!!"

[–] anzo@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago

They are portecting "the economy", that is, elon musk 😅.. Lol.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

connected cars built or designed in China

Only the ones from China though. Every other car going forward will be "connected". That's not the thing they're worried about though.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Finally a good looking EV

Put a pop up camper top on it and I’ll take two

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Top speed of 31mph, and with a camper on top, it will be even a bit slower than that. 77 miles of range also isn't a lot for something you want to go camping in. If your campground is more than 38 miles from the nearest charger, you're just shit out of luck.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

It sounds shitty and awesome and exactly what I want.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Can you fit fold out solar panels and a power station in it?

FTA:

It also has enough space to transport someone in a wheelchair and be charged using regular power outlets at home, with a plug similar to what you would use for a microwave or refrigerator.

So yes, and also, your power station doesn't even need a special EV charging port adapter, just an extension cord.

Yeah, top speed ain't high, but uh, just park, camp for a sunny day or two, recharge your car.

Infinite range at tortoise speeds, at least when the sun is out... which I hear is fairly often, in Mexico, and/or when most people would want to go on a vacation.

EDIT

https://www.merca20.com/mexico-launches-olinia-car-a-mini-electric-vehicle-for-6-people-it-will-cost-8500-usd/

Ok so from here, it has a 14.7 kWh battery, in the car.

So, roughly realistically, to fully recharge the battery from empty, in a single sunny day, you'd need something like 8 500W panels, or 10 400W panels, or 12 300W panels.

Or, if you assume 2 sunny days, half the panel count.

Now, that many solar panels + power station is probably about half as expensive as the car itself, but you absolutely could fit them into this thing, or just mount a rack on top and strap them down, fold them out when you're camped.

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[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The "good looking" EV:

lol

[–] UntitledQuitting@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago

yep. that's the one they were talking about.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

It's a bar of soap.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] Mountainaire@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I mean, they are the source of (nearly?) all avocados. Can't beat 'em...

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Mexico in pretty warm

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[–] noodles@slrpnk.net 15 points 2 months ago

I wonder if this is being aimed at a replacement for the ubiquitous bocho, or original VW bug, that still dominates the intracity car fleets of the many smaller cities and towns in the mountains Central region. If it's rear wheel drive that's my guess, those things only ever go on nigh-vertical narrow cobblestone roads in dense urban environments so low range and slow speeds won't matter at all.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (8 children)

50 kmh isn't much, even for city driving.

[–] miraclerandy@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

My best guess is it will be part of their public transport system. As an example, in Mexico City they have small vans that run up and down a hill but spend most of their time at the base of the hill waiting to go back up. They could charge for a bit while they wait at the bottom.

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's more than enough speed in an urban area. Safety is more important than speed.

[–] Minnels@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Considering how.much people look at their phones instead of the road I think 30km/h should be the max in cities.

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 4 points 2 months ago

Most of Japan's cities are 20-30. There are some bigger, multi-lane roads that are 40 or 50. It kinda depends on road size, curvatures, and how residential the area is.

[–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 8 points 2 months ago

Car brain alerta.... Car brain alert.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

50 is higher than most people can drive in a city because of traffic.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Dublin city centre is 30kph limit.

[–] djmikeale@feddit.dk 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Speed limit in cities in Denmark is 50 km/h with many places being 40 or lower, so it would be quite relevant here

[–] ArcaneGadget@nord.pub 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well apart from most of the major arteries and ring roads typically being 60 or 70 km/h in larger towns and cities... You are not going to be very popular puttering down "Ringvejen" at 50. The occasional tractor or other machinery causes enough bunching up as is...

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[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Can it do 50 up a long gentle hill with 6 occupants or 50 on a flat well paved road, a slight tail wind and a jockey who just took a shit behind the wheel?

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No way it'll be allowed in the US, our automotive industry is terrified of legitimate competition.

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

wait where's the rear window

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Where we're going, we don't need ~~roads~~ a rear window.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Unsurprisingly, some U.S. lawmakers are already trying to stop those cars from coming over the border.

Sen. Elissa Slotkin and Rep. Haley Stevens recently introduced the Protecting America from Chinese Cars Act, which aims to ban connected cars built or designed in China, as well as other adversarial countries like Russia and Iran, from entering the U.S.

This is something Ford CEO Jim Farley called for earlier this year.

“We should not let them into our country,” Farley said during an appearance on Fox & Friends, according to Bloomberg. “Manufacturing is the heart and soul of our country, and for us to lose that to those exports would be devastating to our country.”

Capitalists and CEOs: It's not free market when I have to compete!

[–] Ixoid@aussie.zone 9 points 2 months ago

Sounds like terrorism to me. Another good reason for the US to invade and install a puppet. /s obviously. Fuck the USA.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

But why?

The car is designed for urban settings and has a top speed of 50 kilometers (31 miles) per hour.

It sounds like maybe a 25kWh battery? Why can't it have a real top speed like every other actual car?

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 24 points 2 months ago

Why can’t it have a real top speed like every other actual car?

They skimped out on safety and crumple zones in order to make it lighter and cheaper, but that makes it extremely unsafe at high speeds.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Because then it would not cost $8500.

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[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I like it but if it only goes 31 mph, then it's not really a car. IMHO. People drive around in golf carts in my neighborhood all of the time. I'm pretty sure they're nearly the same thing.

[–] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It goes 50 kph, which is the speed limit in many cities. It's clearly aimed at people who need a city car and won't be taking it on the freeway.

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The suburb where I live is closer to rural than urban, but I could totally see getting one of these for commuting and errands around town.

Just give me an upgraded $10K version that can do 50 mph instead of 50 km/h, because once I get to the end of my street I'm turning into traffic comprised of F-150s and Escalades already going faster than that (illegally).

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[–] Steve@startrek.website 3 points 2 months ago

Its a golf cart…

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