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[–] Ougie@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago
  1. Too expensive
  2. Not enough range.
  3. Not recharging fast enough.
  4. Bad depreciation because batteries.
  5. Unreliable charger networks.
  6. Almost non-existent second hand market.
  7. No access to charger at home.

People mostly use their cars for shorter trips, commuting to work etc but deep down they dream of using it for longer "fun" travels.

EVs in their current state still don't offer this prospect. If you want to go on a road trip you face too many limitations.

When you fork over upwards of 50k for a vehicle you don't just want to go to work with it, you're essentially paying for the dream of doing fun things with it.

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 21 hours ago

Make them cheaper or pay us more, assholes.

[–] Bababasti@feddit.org 2 points 19 hours ago

Let them eat cake type of shit

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 4 points 23 hours ago

Bc we don't have the reasonably priced China EVs. Just the American tech billionaire electric SUVs and Teslas

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 20 hours ago

because EVs are overpriced still, 30-60k+ isnt exactly an attractive market.

[–] KiloGex@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because nobody has enough money for a new car.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The pandemic killed my car because I left it sitting for weeks. Which wasn't a big deal since it was almost twenty years old and still had a CD player.

Excited, I was expecting to pay like $20k for a really nice new car. And to my surprise, $20k is baseline average used car now, and new cars are at least twice as much.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My 2 cents: I could benefit greatly from an EV. Just a small one like a Bolt or something, for commuting.... shudders in suggesting GM for my own use

However, I rent. And my lease dictates that EV chargers are explicitly banned on the property. Something about "safety" and "risk of fire" and all that. Yet during my last inspection, they had absolutely zero issues with my welder, nor do they mind me working on my gasoline/diesel vehicles within the garage (as long as it's not on the driveway...something something property values...nothing more than a brake job in the driveway).

Yes, I know that EVs can be charged elsewhere. But that takes significantly more time than a standard gasoline fill-up, and my workplace (which is 99% of the reason I would own this hypothetical EV anyway) does not have any EV chargers. They might add some in the next year or two, but that's still a "definitely maybe", and so my only other alternative choices are a bike or public transit. Except my commute - a 55MPH rural highway - is too dangerous for biking with the complete lack of bike lanes, and public transit doesn't exist in my area.

I'm left with no other choice but to use a gasoline/diesel vehicle. Or walk, I guess?

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

idk about the US, but for Canada, there's nothing under $50k, and anything around that mark is not what I want.

I want economical, basic, non-super-smart, halogen headlight, simple to repair, minimal touchscreen, physical driver controls, and at minimum a hatchback (but ideally wagon)

that car doesn't exist. so I'll keep buying used cars and repairing them instead of funneling money to manufacturers for shitty products.

[–] dreugeworst@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

do you guys not get European, Korean or Chinese EVs? or are thw prices of those inflated in Canada?

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

I guess not?

I went to two websites that claim to help you select an EV in Canada and used those results as the basis of my claims.

[–] papertowels@mander.xyz 2 points 23 hours ago

I think slate is targeting that niche with their truck

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

Yep. This is what's up.

When Nokia translates their brick phone design into an electric car, it'll sell like hot cakes.

Until then, we will see how many shitbox Toyota's we can keep running well past 300,000 miles.

[–] Nurgus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

The used car market comes a bit later after new car sales gets going. It's taken off here in the UK now, we can buy lots of EVs second hand. I never buy new cars.

[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The ev in this picture is estimated to sell for over $700,000...

And it looks like a mcdonalds happy meal toy.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because they banned the affordable and superior imports from China lol.

[–] BananaPeal@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Look into the used market. Lots of nice EVs for cheap because people think EV batteries degrade at the same rate as cell phone batteries. They don't. I got a 3 year old EV for under 25k.

[–] ContriteErudite@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

This! I've had my EV for 6 years and my battery has degraded ~8% according to diagnostics. It's still enough to get me ~275 miles at highway speeds before I need to charge. I take it on a couple long-distance road trips every year and have never had an issue with range.

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (7 children)

My local gas station doesn't have a charger. My place of enjoyment doesn't have a charger. No gas station near me has a charger. My home is old enough where i would need to upgrade the service to get a charger installed.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I am very happy to never use local gas stations again. Charging at home is a huge convenience.

You might take a closer look at whether you can install a charger: a nice 50a charger is a great convenience, but you could still cover your needs with less.

  • most EVs can schedule charging, so it’s only used overnight when nothing else is
  • I saw a blog about a “smart” charger that only charged when sufficient capacity was available
  • i saw a smart dryer adapter - use the 30a dryer outlet but only when the dryer isn’t running
  • you could install a 20a/240v air conditioner circuit to cover most charging needs
  • even a standard household outlet can keep up with average driving
[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

After all the comments I put a few calls out. Great feedback from everyone.

[–] BananaPeal@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Is your daily commute less than 40 miles? Then a level 1 charger could be enough. Especially if you can charge at work. Worried about the occasional longer trip? Look into plug-in hybrids. You can run your daily commute on the electric engine but the ICE engine is there for longer trips.

You likely don't need to upgrade service, for a L2 charger either. I have 100 amp service and my biggest hurdle was making room in my circuit breaker. I just had to combine some circuits. I had a few circuits that were just lights. Every bulb I have is LED, so there was no problem combining them. Then I added a $100 device that monitors my whole house usage and turns off the charger if there's a chance of tripping the main breaker. But that never happens because I have the charger set to 30 amp, which is plenty for me. I'd have to be running the dryer, oven, and charger at the same time for that device to kick in, but I have the car set to charge after 9pm when we never cook or do laundry. I could run it at 50amp with this strategy, but it's way more than I need for my 20 mile commute.

If you're genuinely interested but think you can't because of your home charging options, then check outthis video from Technology Connections. This video about electricians unnecessarily hooking up 50 amp lines for EV chargers might be useful too.

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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The only one remotely affordable is sold by a fascist.

[–] bblkargonaut@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I bought a used 2013 Chevy volt with 190,000 miles, and I ran a 10 gauge extension cord from my house to my parking pad since I don't have a garage. So far I have used 2 gallons of gas for the 2,000 miles I've driven since January. Those 2 gallons where used when it was like -20F here in Minnesota. I hope gas hits $10+ per gallon.

[–] terry_jerry@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago

What kind of range u get in that bad boi

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 44 points 2 days ago

Because they’re too expensive. Easy. Next question!

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

People are poor and have no money, EVs are new and cost a lot of money. Is this the same situation when they keep asking why people are not having kids? I think they know the answer but don't like it.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Have you ever tried to roll coal in an EV? /s

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 days ago

If I cannot afford five dollar gas, how the hell am I gonna afford an electric car?

[–] pr0xy_prime@lemmy.world 94 points 2 days ago (38 children)

Because

  1. our government is run by child murdering pedophiles who ruined the economy so no one can afford to eat or pay rent

  2. Electric cars in America are exubarantly overpriced or cheap trash

  3. if you bought one anyway we dont have infrastructure in place to charge it in majority of places in the US

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Hey all, I would like to kindly remind all users to please follow Rule 3 in the sidebar:

Policy, not politics! Policy discussions revolve around the concept; political discussions revolve around the individual, party, association, etc. We only allow POLICY discussions and political discussions should go to c/politics.

I don't want to remove this comment because the rest of it contributes to good on-topic conversation, but at the same time I must remind users that a remark such as point 1 in this comment, whether it is true or not, is considered political discussion. If you want to discuss politics, political figures, governmental entities, etcetera, then you can do so in appropriate communities such as c/politics.

For personal reference, a good way to tell if a remark is considered political is to ask: If someone replied to argue about this, would they be arguing about a law, regulation, or policy? Or would they be arguing about a person, governmental entity, or something similar?

A comment like is fine, and encouraged even:

I hate this new law that outlaws vehicle passengers wearing seatbelts because it is very dangerous.

However, a comment like this is not:

This is all Mr. Politician's fault; he wants to kill everyone and is ruining the world by outlawing seatbelts.

You guys have been pretty good about this so far. Thank you and keep being awesome.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 20 hours ago

also tariffing materials to build cheaper EVS, and and tariffing ones form china too.

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[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Because we cant afford them.

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