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Note.. all the games are in North America so within 3 hrs time zone .. but bars need to be open until 4am somehow

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[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 18 hours ago

I doubt that they require bars to stay open until 4 AM. It sounds more like they lifted the mandate to close earlier.

I am always for less restrictions, so this sounds actually like a good change.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 49 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Why are they requiring bars to close by 4am? Just drop the restriction entirely. If you want to get shitfaced at 6am then go ahead.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This! When I was young, we used to stay at clubs so late that it was a bit light out when we came out. Grab some breakfast, and sleep the day away. Shit, we wouldn't even hit the clubs until after 23:00. Then we moved to Texas where everything closed at 2:00, no matter how packed it was. So depressing.

[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The same reason half of Europe has closed shops on Sunday, worker protection.

You need strong laws to not have businesses abusing and pressuring peoples to work the shity 14h shift till morning for earning a peanut.

And workers protection law + North America are not often put in the same sentence.

Also it’s generally not worth it business wise. Paying salaries and more from 2 to 4 (or 6am or whatever) to sell two beers means losing money. You might have a few festive nights here and there, but most of the weeks/months you’ll have an empty bar.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Allowing bars to stay open is not the same as requiring them to stay open. Owners won't keep a bar open 24 hours if there isn't any business.

[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 5 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I know that, but some might pressure you to work the night shift "or…"

People living around bars also want to be able to sleep sometimes.

Closed bar also means less drunk people in the streets. In my city you cannot buy alcohol "to go" in shops after 9pm and bars close at 2.

After that if you want to continue partying you go to night clubs.

Anyway, a wise drunk dude once said "nothing good happens after 2", and from experience he was right.

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[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

The same reason half of Europe has closed shops on Sunday, worker protection.

That sounds more like countries enforcing a religious preference (day of rest on Sunday for church) than worker protection. I suppose it could be branded as secular, but so can France's ban on wearing hijabs in the name of laïcité.

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Ehh, maybe it started of as a religious thing, perhaps why Sunday was chosen specifically; but the idea of forcing everyone to have a day off is wonderful.

In the us, there's no federal law limiting the number of days people have to work. Some states have a 1 every 7 days rule. But that's not specific enough, for shift schedule work, they can set your off day to be Sunday this week, and Friday next week, and only schedule you a few hours a day so you get to work almost 2 weeks in a row with out overtime pay.

IMO, it should be (regardless of number of hours worked) on day 6 your pay is 1.5x, and day 7 is required off. At day 8 it's 2x pay, +2 days of paid vacation time - 8 hours or your typical shift length (which ever is larger). (then doubling everyday after). With a signed agreement between you, HR, your boss, whomever is "in charge"/owns the company and the labor board with specific documentation explaining why you have to work so many days in a row and why the job can't wait a day or someone else can't fill in. Failure to do this step results in x5 back pay for everyday worked after 6. Doubling everyday after 8.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Nah, it's definitely a worker protection ting. Sure, it has religious origins, which is why it's specifically on Sundays, but that's not why we keep it in place. It's pretty widely supported that we should have one day per week where most shops are mandated to keep closed, and nobody sees a good reason to make it any other day than Sunday, so we've kept it on Sundays.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

They only state they can stay open until 4am. It doesn't mention what time they reopen. My sister's bar opens at 6am or so. Supposedly for night shift workers.

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[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

I actually think later bar hours are better. In countries where bars are open later, there doesn't tend to be an end of the night rush out the door into the streets. People tend to leave when they're done and it staggers the exodus somewhat. Way less fights in the street after the bars close.

[–] Sabin10@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (6 children)

That's not the mayor of Toronto, that's the premier of the province of Ontario. His younger brother was the crackhead mayor of Toronto.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 17 hours ago

I guess in Canada they elect the most punchable face only

[–] egerlach@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

I mean, he thinks he's the mayor of Toronto, and really only wants to be mayor of Toronto, so…

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[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bars here in Japan are often open until first train in the big cities (~5am) with some going later. I don't necessarily see anything wrong with that in itself (especially for late shift folks who want to enjoy the same after-work experiences as day shift folks).

That said, fuck this guy for many other reasons.

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wait there are no trains in Japan at night? In Frankfurt there used to be none between like 3am and 5am. Sucked pretty hard when you missed the train and had to wait for the first one. Slept quite often at a station at the time. Now trains run all night albeit on a slow schedule.

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 1 points 19 hours ago

Maintenance is done at night and, when that's not happening, they run freight trains. In Tokyo, last train used to be like 1:30ish on some lines and started up again a bit before 5am. Now it's more like a bit after midnight and starting again closer to 5am. JR is a private company (a group of them, actually) and they keep squeezing things further, presumably for more profit.

They did start a bus line between nightlife areas a few years ago, but it never got popular and was closed (and also just took drunk people around from one party area to the next and not home).

[–] Watermark710@piefed.social 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Where I live, we don't have trains, only buses. The last one is at 6:30pm. The first ones are ~6am. Honestly though, the only people taking the bus here are either too young to drive, or too old to drive. But our bars are open 24/7/365. If you don't count the COVID lockdowns, my local bar has been open 24/7 every day since 1987.

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 2 points 19 hours ago

Japan set the allowed alcohol limit to basically zero sometime in the '90s so drinking anything and driving here can see you lose your license and spend time in Jail.... as it should be IMO.

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[–] zewm@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait. Whats wrong with this? As someone in a city with 24 hours bars and clubs, I’m not understanding the problem. What exactly is the gripe?

[–] Karmanopoly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'm just making fun of the fact that all the games are in North America.

He extended bar hours so everyone can enjoy the games at 4am but there won't be any games at 4am in Toronto

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[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

When his crackhead brother died the monkey's paw curled and now we're stuck with this 250 pound mosquito

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

No this is Doug, he’s the premier of Ontario right now. They both crawled out of the same hellish crevice though

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This guy really only cares about alcohol. Billions of dollars of provincial money spend on liquor contracts that would have expired in a year or two.

[–] Karmanopoly@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (5 children)

You saying this guy is obsessed?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 23 hours ago

While he does stupid media stunts like this, he passes laws so no one can see what's on his burner phones

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[–] Seigest@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

[self deleted for unintentional racism] genuine sorry about that

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

If Pierre Poilievre is "trump lite" then Doug Ford is "trump heavy".

[–] xkbx@startrek.website 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

STOP TRYING TO OUTSHINE US, T.O.

  • a Montrealer, where bars were open until 3AM for the longest time
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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Truly what the people of Canada needed right now...

[–] FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Fifa world cup? Hmm. Maybe he wants it in place for next world cup, which might be in a different country. But, knowing he might not be mayor in 4 or 5 years time, he put it in place now, so everyone will remember him as 'the guy who let us watch football'

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