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[–] Zink@programming.dev 27 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

I think actual digital data centers can have value for humanity. You need to store things like Wikipedia and Archive.org and other worthwhile sites and services somewhere.

What is shit is the explosion in "data" centers that are really more like gigawatt space heaters that spit out fake images and wrong statements on the side.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 15 points 22 hours ago
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 16 hours ago

Kiwix library is a site where you can download wikipedia, project gutenberg, devdocs, and other stuff like that as .zim files, which you can open with the kiwix software and basically browse the sites offline/locally

[–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 points 16 hours ago

Wikipedia and whole of archive.org probably fit on 1 rack full of drives. 99,999% of what’s on datacenters are literal garbage photos, videos and what not that people don’t delete, and their copies in many other locations for high availability.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I know the perversion of words is a regular thing (for various malicious or random reasons), but the the current use of "AI" and "data certes" really keeps fucking me mid communication (evey time I hear "AI" I think "oh, non-AI-AI").

The last time this happened as much (iirc) was the word "literally" (as in 'it literally keeps fucking me mid communication').

So yes, data centres (libraries) are important, including managing risks of such centres (eg de/centralisation, concentration, etc).
I would say intelligence is important too but ... I lack the evidence.

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Literally has meant figuratively longer than literally only meant objectively.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Alas, I did not touch you!

Funny how words grow and change with use 😁

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 3 points 19 hours ago

No, that was an invitation, do touch.

[–] littleomid@feddit.org 4 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

The replies on this thread are absolutely fascinating. How can people be against physical books is a riddle to me.

[–] thal3s@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago

Right?!

I saw someone post recently that if libraries were invented today they’d never be allowed to exist and I fear that’s correct.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago

I threw my back out this weekend moving boxes and boxes of my family's books. Other than weight and shelf space, I have no complaints about paper books.

[–] fisch@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

Have you ever seen a Cybertruck in the parking lot of the public library? Thought so.

[–] ghodawalaaman@programming.dev 5 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

disagreed if it weren't for digital media I wouldn't have learned what I know today

[–] potpotato@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Librariers are a lot more than books though.

[–] Hoodoir@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Library of things gang. 

I borrowed a Theramin, garden weasel, and a circular saw all in the same week doing a backyard garden project (the theramin was for fun)

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I'd be down with publicly funded digital libraries.

[–] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Libby is amazing for anyone who hasn't discovered it yet. It's likely your library supports it.

https://libbyapp.com/

[–] Hoodoir@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Libby + State library card = access to everything it seems 

[–] Hoodoir@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Many states have them in the US. If you’re here check and see if your state does. It’s free and beyond useful

[–] mynameisbob@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I used to shelve books for a living. I just love being in libraries. I like how quite they are... I love that people there have a purpose and it is noble. I love how it is the number one weapon against fascism. I love libraries. It is no wonder why they are defunding them in the USA. We are a disgusting people. I live in the arm pit of the world.

[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bro. IDK about other countries, but In India, Library Owners have changed the definition of Libraries. It is basically a room with desks and computers where people come to study with their own study material instead of having their own collection of books, study material (neither physical nor digital). It is a nice place to study but it ain't a library, it is just a study room for fuck's sake.

[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where in India? I've never seen this in the South.

[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pune, Mumbai, NCR, Jaipur. These are the places where I have searched for a library and found study rooms instead. Normal Libraries still exist but they are not doing well in Tier 1 cities.

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sheesh. You can always find books in a library in Chennai.

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[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 4 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

...that looks more like a half-price books than a library...

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, there are no call numbers. Seems to be a used bookstore.

[–] thal3s@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago

TBF, the video showcases many different libraries and bookstores.

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[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago (7 children)

No that's kinda dumb. A digital copy of the book can serve so many people compared to one physical copy of the book. You have issues with how datacenters are used to exclusively serve capital interests.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (6 children)

No that's kinda dumb. Libraries do so much more for communities than house physical books, and at the same time those important historical paper records and books need to be stored somewhere public and accessible. Digital records can be altered. Digital books can be altered. Physical is crucial.

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[–] littleomid@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (14 children)

Anyone can read a physical book. Digital books are gatekept behind devices.

Edit: I honestly can’t believe the replies I’m getting. Who knew people oppose physical books that have existed for hundreds of years? This is depressing.

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[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] thal3s@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Why be so negative? There’s plenty of that everywhere nowadays.

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