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[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 47 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

They dont want to be vilified they just need to stop acting evil.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Like taxing homes a second time? Or taxing second homes?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Second homes. People own NYC homes and never even see them. It's just an investment that sits empty.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is a huge part of why cities have such high rent. There is enough housing, but huge swaths of apartments are sitting empty so they can be used in speculative portfolios. Then the landlice raise the rent of the units that are occupied and it artificially increases the value of their other empty properties.

Truly disgusting behavior. Star Trek type homeless riots are coming v soon if we dont get it in check.

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just wanted to note: I like "Landlice"

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Thanks, it's gender neutral

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 88 points 3 days ago (1 children)

People online who make 30k a year.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] zeroConnection@programming.dev 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Swiftie fans

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 108 points 3 days ago (15 children)

It's what I don't understand about the ultra rich .... a billionaire has enough money to live comfortably for one lifetime, and they would only use a fraction of their wealth to do it ... yet they want to acquire even more wealth, as much as possible and it any wealth they do achieve is only accelerated because it means they can gain more faster.

It's like finding a mountain of sugar, you eat it and it makes you feel great and you can eat as much of it as you like, you'll never be able to eat all of it, even if you tried ... but no matter what anyone says, you still want more sugar.

When you describe this scenario with money, its a normal conversation ... if you said anyone wants a billion of something .. like a billion collector cards, a billion cats, a billion motorcycles, a billion sandwiches, you're considered nuts ... but if you want a billion dollars, that's perfectly normal

[–] notabot@piefed.social 101 points 3 days ago (3 children)

They're not interested in money, that's just a convenient tool, they're interested in power, and money buys both hard and soft power. Hard power might involve sponsoring a ballroom, or paying for an inaugeration to get the ear of a politician, soft power is more about being known for having inexhaustable wealth and having "useful" people seek you out to do deals with.

[–] zeejoo@thelemmy.club 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Sorry, no. Sponsoring a ballroom or paying for an inauguration are examples of soft power. Hard power is when you use coercive means to achieve your goals, in a geopolitical sense (where the terms come from) hard power is military action or the threat thereof, or economic sanctions. Funding things, building things and paying for things are examples of soft power. A billionaires version of hard power would be blackmail or a hostile takeover.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Or just war. Billionaires control the government, they control the military.

[–] zeejoo@thelemmy.club 6 points 3 days ago (4 children)

They have influence over it, they don't control it. Elon can't threaten Sam Altman with a hellfire missile strike over their ongoing lawsuit.

That's because Elon isn't one of the billionaires in control of the country, he's just a billionaire who aspires to join them while they laugh at him behind his back.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yet. Private militaries have been a thing in the past, and I see no reason to believe they won't be again if state collapse continues.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

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Also, a lot of them like to rape children, and that shit can get pretty expensive.

[–] jve@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

get the ear off of a politician

Ooh so close.

[–] GardenGeek@europe.pub 25 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Two things that come to my mind:

  1. In our current society money equals power over others. If you're not the richest your not the most powerful and if you are you need to fight to proetct your power from other who are getting richer. It's not about money but about determining the fate of others and rulership over society.
  2. You don't become obsecely rich by being a good person. Once you reach a billion dollars you most paobably already aquired a mindeset that leaves you no other choice than to look for another billion. Much like a hamster in a wheel which spins to fast to let it go off.

In the eyes of average humans (which I believe to be decent people, at least 80 % of the total population) this is insane... however the 10 - 20 % egoists are the ones we chose as our rulers.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's the other half of the problem I always see .... it's not just the insanity of a person or individual who is constantly chasing after even more astronomical amounts of money and wealth and power ... it's the 80% of everyone else including me and you who all just stand by and allow it all to happen and contribute to it and maintain it all

It's like the whole Trump thing in America .. sure Trump is an idiot ... but there is an entire nation that either supports its, ignores it, maintains it or works for it, and all of them just accept it as normal

America was founded on greed and ignorance

Nothing changed.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

We can't discount the classic dick-measuring contest that's bound to happen when rich people compare their net worths to each other. I'd be shocked if some people weren't at least partly motivated by having a bigger "number" than their friends do.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I had a boss who had a net worth around $10 million (I knew because he had hired me to trade S&P500 futures for him and he gave me access to his brokerage accounts as part of this). He owned a house, nice cars, and a temp agency that gave him an income around $25,000 per month, in a southern city where the cost of living was very low. By any normal standard he was living in the lap of luxury, but his best friends were all west coast vulture capitalists who were worth hundreds of millions and my boss' jealousy of them just absolutely ate him up inside (this was the whole reason he was getting into futures trading in the first place).

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Addiction

Literal money addiction.

Ever known anyone with a proper hard drug addiction? Them fuckers will do anything to get their fix. So will the rich. But their addiction just gives them more and more power to practice their addiction.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I do know a lot about addictions and addict ... I'm a recovered alcoholic myself ... over 30 years sobriety now.

And I have heard of these people described as addicts suffering from an addiction. One of the first signs of addiction is in how your addiction negatively affects your life ... the other signs include how your addiction negatively affects the lives of others around you.

So why don't we treat excessive, unnecessary and wasteful wealth and power as an addiction that severely affects society. We treat alcoholism and drug addiction with great shame ... but if we collect, consume and horde endless wealth while it negatively affects our lives and the lives of millions of people -> that is perfectly normal and acceptable.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So why don't we treat excessive, unnecessary and wasteful wealth and power as an addiction that severely affects society

Because the money addicts also happen to have all the power.

D'you know what the first thing a drunk says when you call him a drunk? "I'm not a drunk", while getting visibly upset and often violent.

The money addicts have all the money and all the power. And they all support each other in their delusions. And it's not just some random delusion, it's a global paradigm. So it's kinda hard to point out their delusions when theyre shared by billions of wannabe rich people.

Even when we're literally destroying the only planet known to support life.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I suppose it's like the saying in treatment and recovery ....

"usually the last person to find out a person is an alcoholic .... is the alcoholic"

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[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

When you've never needed to think about money as a resource required to live, it stops being one. Among those who have never had to worry about money for survival, it's no longer a resource, it's a status symbol. It doesn't matter how much money you need, it only matters how much money you can collect, and that number can always be bigger.

They don't care that the trophies they're collecting just to feel superior would drastically improve someone else's wellbeing, because they don't care about the wellbeing of anyone else, period. In wealthy society, the only thing that matters is how you stand compared to other wealthy people, and being empathetic only serves to lower your standing.

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

To be fair I don't think people would comprehend how insane a billion of anything bigger than microscopic would be. For example 1 billion grams of sugar is enough to fill at least 3 3-bedroom apartments. 1 billion cats is probably more than there are household cats on the planet.

People are likely to underestimate how much a billion is so a billion of something that your life depends on probably doesn't seem like much, because you need it anyway and you can spend it. Except you can't. I imagine if the average person was given 1 billion dollars and they'd buy everything they could ever imagine most people would still have 950 million left. To spend 1 billion in 30 years you'd need to spend almost 100k daily. You'd have to spend more in a day than most people make in a year. It's been normalized because it's incomprehensible to begin with.

A million seconds is ~11.5 days. A billion seconds is ~31.5 years. The scaling is absurd.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What's even stupider is any billionaire doesn't even have a billion in liquid capital, the vast majority of their networth is in shares from the companies they own and it's in their interest to not dump a bunch of stock.

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[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"It's like finding a mountain of sugar, you eat it and it makes you feel great and you can eat as much of it as you like, you'll never be able to eat all of it, even if you tried ... but no matter what anyone says, you still want more sugar."

Holy shit, this is a damn good metaphor! Hats off to you, mate!

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

It's a simile :)

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I was just commenting on the fly ... but my favourite comparison is in using bananas ... it would be like owning a mountain of bananas the size of Mount Everest, and telling everyone that they can't touch the mountain or eat any of it ... while the owner could never possibly ever be able to eat the whole mountain.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

The chimp analogy, where they kill the hoarder.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The sad thing is, in most implementations, the taxation system works as a barrier of entry into being rich: you only get over it, by throwing your moral compass away and buddy up to the rich and/or powerful. After you're over it, you only get richer and pay less in comparison, for pretty much everything.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago

Rich people if you try to touch even one gold piece:

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That's part if it, but the wealthy are also overly concerned with their standing in their niche community, and whether investors will give them money. They're fully invested in their endless growth model, and have all done horrible things.... So their standing is no longer effected by what horrible things they've done by our standards. It's just a question of whether they're "growing" the money.

Infinite growth personified = a cancer on humanity.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

Taxing: Wicked, Theiving, Irrational, Unconstitutional

Rent-Seeking: Beautific, Generous, Sane, Magna Carta-esque

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Related but not really : I dont know what Musk is playing at getting involved in politics. Youve got enough money to take part in any activity you like, visit disneyland while on acid, ride the longest zipline, underwater hotels, world's largest hamster-habitat, literally anything you like for as long as you live and still leave your children with more money than a lot of countries have, and he chooses to do work?

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 19 points 3 days ago

He's a broken person on the inside. He's like homelander in the boys. All this power, but he's still a sad little boy no one likes.

Unlike Homelander, Musk is not impervious to conventional hazards.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You do realize how much Doge was able to dismantle specifically the parts of government that tax the rich, right?

But aside from that, people tend to conflate appearance for substance. He feels controlling the government makes him powerful because he appears powerful.

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[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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The man kinda looks like those Rage Comics male faces.

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