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[–] Miller@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Is this not just a jaundiced slant on the future we were all promised where machines do all the work and we lay around in togas eating blancmange.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 16 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Or, now hear me out, we tax the shit out of the rich and their corps, and implement UBI. That was supposed to be the plan ever since futurism envisioned advanced automation - the tech does the work, human reap the benefits and just do whatever. Capitalism just came along and fucked it all up instead because that's how rich assholes and investors measure their scores.

[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 14 points 5 hours ago

Psychopathic capitalists don't feel like they're winning unless everyone else is losing.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

They always weasel out of taxes. My idea was to give each person something like carbon coins that works like an emission permit. Give everyone the same amount each month and keep it within nature's limits. Then, if someone wants to do something polluting like run a datacenter, they'll just have to purchase the coins for that from the open market from those willing to sell. The end result is still money going to the poor but not as a tax, and hard limit on pollution.

[–] nlgranger@lemmy.world 1 points 25 minutes ago (1 children)

It takes one country to not play along and the whole industry rushes there...

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 minutes ago

Yes, there is a need for tariffs, based on worst cause estimates of pollution, for countries not playing along.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Anything but doing UBI, lol.

Oh and btw:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_offsets_and_credits
Essentially that but without the building thingie and without that ⬇️

The end result is still money going to the poor but not as a tax, and hard limit on pollution.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Anything but doing UBI, lol.

Yeah, there seems to be a lot of resistance to giving money, replace systems and taxing parts of UBI.

Reworking existing systems seems easier.

[–] Teppa@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Well it would cause massive deflation, which will cause loose monetary policy, which will debase your paycheck until its cheaper to hire you than it is to use a machine. Which is nothing like capitalism, its more like central planning that aims to prevent technological deflation, with a entirely fabricated story to tell us why we need inflation from the very people who profited off of inflation.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 4 hours ago

All Ai IS DOING is laying people off in large numbers. its not even replacing it at all, they are hoping rehire for lower than previous salary, plus a little outsourcing. and they wont rehire everyone.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 2 points 5 hours ago

Did Bernie read my Terminator fanfic? The one where the 1% are living it up on some islands with T800 butlers while the Terminators clear out the rest of humanity?

[–] sbbq@lemmy.zip 54 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

Who's going to buy their products and services when there are only two classes, one that doesn't need them and one that can't afford them?

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 hours ago

They will buy their products and services from each other. That can still form a working economy. It would function just like any slavery based economy of the past, just with more slaves than usual

[–] TrippinMallard@lemmy.ml 62 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Products are being created for rich people. Poor people are being cut out of the economy.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

There's already a lot of evidence that the majority of the economy is currently functioning off the economic activity of the upper 10% of society. That 10% accounts for 50% of all economic activity. They just want to take it a step further.

[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

It was 50% at the end of 2024. They're probably closer to 55 - 57% now with inflation, doge firings, wars, tariffs, and off shoring

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Okay but here's a half of a thought.

Who's building it, and how quickly do rich people get bored?

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Lol slaves or robots. And never.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Who gets bored when you can hunt poor people for sport?

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 5 hours ago

I hope to someday gore a billionaire.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Being hunted is the best the poor can hope for at this point.

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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 hours ago

Sure sure but it's the ultra rich who we need to fight. AI is a smokescreen for their greed.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Has anyone tried asking the AI companies for a list of demands?

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I mean Alex Karp of Palintir just released a 22 point manifesto that has the subtext of "I sent some people a 23rd point saying 'some of you are cool, don't come to school tomorrow'"

I bet we could get the others to also release an unhinged manifesto

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 1 points 26 minutes ago

I'm a strong believer that someone absolutely needs to American Psycho that man for the benefit and survival of the american people.

You can't have psychopaths like that running around. The rest of your system has failed to stop it from happening.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Total submission

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 25 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

It would be cool to remove the need for everyone to work jobs they hate just to survive though.

[–] inari@piefed.zip 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Sure but the system would only work if the rich agreed to pay for our expenses via taxes. Don't expect it anytime soon.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Why do they have a choice?

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 40 minutes ago

Stuff like this makes me wonder why we were even brought into this world, if we aren't wanted and can't have anything.

My only purpose at this point is to make sure they fail too.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Because they own the government

[–] purrtastic@lemmy.nz 4 points 4 hours ago

And the media

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 6 points 8 hours ago

The frustrating part is that a significant amount of that might already be largely technologically and economically possible at this point, but not as long as some people are hoarding 99% of the world's wealth, and brutally exploiting at least the poorest 80% of the world's population in their endless quest for more.

It has to stop.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 35 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

AI oligarchs don’t want to replace anyone.

They want businesses with money paying them huge subscription fees, and they want lock-in so that all businesses out there depend on their tech to continue to function.

It’s the same model as we saw with streaming video.

They couldn’t care less about the working class, one way or the other, which is part of the problem.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 20 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

The "ultimate question" is: do they really just want a whole lot of people to die? They bluster around the topic like that's a question that you just don't ask, but when you boil away all the BS, what's left is: are you saying that you're going to lock people out of any possible way to feed themselves and their children and just "let them figure it out for themselves"?

[–] searabbit@piefed.social 23 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Yes. That's where the white supremacist eugenics comes in. They literally think they're genetically superior and those they deem inferior should die. That's why too many billionaires have like 10 kids nowadays. It's weird christo-fascist "replacement theory" shit.

[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They literally think they’re genetically superior

Stephen Miller looking very genetically superior indeed

[–] Furbag@pawb.social 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Every time I see this image I swear his eyes get smaller every time.

[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago

Tiny pigs' eyes, mouthbreathing, and a hairline receding further than Melania does when Donnie enters her bed? Those are the sure signs of genetic superiority.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

You must remember one thing. The 1% are called the 1% because we are the 99%.

So when we're left to "figure it out for ourselfs" in a life or death situation, historically speaking the end result is revolt and revolution.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 15 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly?

I think AI replacing office workers is just a pit stop till AI can operate kill drones...

Billionaires are 100% asking themselves if they really need us, and the fucked up thing is if robots can grow their food, produce their goods and shield their compounds from us...

They don't need us. At that point theyre gonna want to get rid of us for the space if we can't make them money, and where were headed we won't be able to.

They "need" a small buffer population that enjoys the oligarchs protection from us, but are loyal because they can be killed/exiled at any time.

But 99.9999% of the world population, they're probably ok with killing off already.

If not, they definitely will be once they squeeze every last ounce of resources out of us and the planet starts really dying. They'll even convince themselves it's "for the greater good" to save the planet they killed making their billions.

They're just gonna keep getting crazier, there's no logical reason to think the trajectory or acceleration will change. Eventually it'll be a literal class war unless we prevent by taking our resources back.

[–] Ancalagon@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Correct. AI drones that can kill is the goal here.

No doubt about it. There IS no logical reasoning the trajectory will change.

But try to inform the population....

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[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone got a mirror of the post? I'm getting this error message:

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