None of the competitors have great linux support and great gamepad support. I have no love for steam, for me it just happens to be the best platform from a technical point of view.
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I get that we shouldn't be happy about any type of Monopoly but Steam occupies the PC gaming space similar to how Linux dominates the server space.
You can't really complain that almost every server running Linux is a bad thing. Granted Steam is not open source, but you have to imagine how little effort it takes to not make a shitty marketplace/platform as a competitor.
The fact that such a low bar cannot be surpassed by multi billion dollar companies is all you really need to know, especially when GOG successfully exists.
Steam is a closed source market place blob that takes 30% middle man tax. Valve however has understood FOSS, and the contributions they are making are immense.
When a true FOSS project is dominating this means the people are in control of it. Not corpos nor is it a monopoly. People have voted by donating work for it to be the most successful thing in its applicable area. Dominating FOSS projects also suck up and integrate a lot of innovation greatly reducing duplicated effort.
FreeBSD is alive and well, and it even benefits from Linux's DRM GPU drivers.
Although the drm gpu drivers are mostly of a corporate effort, we are seeing an occasional interventions by the people "no, not like that" to keep the sometimes shoddy quality up.
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ow Linux dominates the server space.
Linux is free. Free cannot be monopoly. Bad comparison here.
Free can still be a monopoly. There is still a controlling group that decides the direction of linux and then entire ecosystem moves with that direction.
If you stretch the definition long enough, sure.
Steam is also free unless I'm missing something?
They mean free as in freedom / free speech (libre), not free as in free beer / free robux (gratis)
Linux is libre, Steam is not libre, both are gratis
Steam is gratis to create an account, it is not free. All game purchases have a 30% tax, and you don't own the games you purchased.
Not tax, it's Steam's cut.
It's more accurate to call it a commission for marketing, advertising, and distribution services. Steam isn't doing nother, they are providing a service to their customers.
It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me to ask "are other companies bad?" when trying to determine if a company is a monopoly. One thought experiment I like to do is pretend the CEO dies and is replaced by Satan. How much damage could he do? If it's a lot, then probably you've got a monopoly.
Suppose Gaben dies, and he's replaced by Satan. Could he do damage to the gaming community by doing something exorbitant, like charging a 30% cut of game sales from the folks who actually develop the games? Could they do anticompetitive vendor lock stuff like only allowing you to purchase DLC through steam? Only time will tell. And it will, because at some point Gaben will die, and he will be replaced by someone less magnanimous and angelic than him.
There is the colloquial definition of monopoly, and a different legal bar for being declared a monopolist under US law.
To be declared a monopolist requires that a company actively seek to destroy other competitors through anti competitive behavior. Even if people mix terms, the general idea is that they’re not doing anything unreasonable and anti-competitive to gain their position in the market.
Or at least, I would argue that the thing they do is something the entire rest of the industry also does, and basically everyone else in the industry rejects the solution out of hand. Allowing radical interoperability between services would prevent network effects and user lock in on any given services. But, those companies who rail against steam the most don’t actually want a healthy market with a number of viable competitors, they just want to take steams place and be make lots of money by being anti consumer.
There is the colloquial definition of monopoly, and a different legal bar for being declared a monopolist under US law.
The US legal bar for being a monopoly has been a joke since Reagan. But even aside from that, legality is not an interesting concept in discussions like these. Slavery was legal. The real question here is whether this situation has the potential to cause serious harm to society.
The real danger is that if steam decided to suddenly start being externally anti consumer, like many of it’s competitors already are, it would be difficult for people to migrate away due to a lack of interoperability between services. Users can’t transfer licenses to play games between services, nor can they easily interact with social features on other platforms.
Exactly, this is the problem. This is anticompetitive behavior.
But that’s not really steam’s fault, that’s how all the competitors (for the most part) work as well.
Yes it is, this is a deliberate choice they made. No one held a gun to their head. And it is precisely this kind of stuff that antitrust laws were supposed to protect us from. And you can see that in countries which do still have reasonable antitrust laws, Steam is being sued for precisely these practices.
Exactly, this is the problem. This is anticompetitive behavior.
It’s not anti competitive if it is litterlay also what all the competitors are doing, and have been doing since the very dawn of digital markets for software. It also dubious if they could legally even set up such interoperability even if they wanted to, as it could potentially violate parts of the DMCA.
They’re not doing anything to destroy their competitors, they’re not a monopolist, and the repeated failures of court cases against them all over the world shows that. There are a few on going cases against them, but, there are far far more cases that have already finished that failed to show any monopoly seeking behavior.
Yes, an evil ceo could do much harm by turning steam into the companies shooting themselves in the face. However, they are currently one of the only ones not doing that, so that's where gamers will go.
There's a difference between a monopoly that exists because all other options are shit and a monopoly that exists because of anticompetitive practices.
"Luigi wins by doing nothing!" ahh company 😭
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They don't allow ads in games. Support Steam.
really?
Both Sony and Nintendo have been consistently posting record revenue numbers in the past few years. Neither are that far off Valve.
Regardless, this whole Steam circlejerk reminds me of the early days of Android, when people still believed that Google wasn’t “evil”. Let’s hope I’m in the wrong here.
The difference was that people pretended like Google ever had an option to “not be evil”. At the end of the day, they were a publicly traded company, and thus, line must go up, or else the collective hive mind of the public market would vote the leadership out and replace them.
Steam is private, thus, the current leaderships can ignore the demands of the public market hive mind. Private companies can be evil, but it depends on who owns them. They’re not guaranteed.
In fairness Google was just becoming evil at that point. It was a fantastic company when the founders ran it.
Google isn't privately owned. It's hard to be on the stock market and not be evil. I think Costco is the only one that has managed it for any appreciable length and that is under threat of death from one of the co-founders.
I mean, yes.
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Steam is a scary monopoly, getting scarier.
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It's not their fault the industry (minus GoG) comitted mass seppuku.
Both can be true. One can worry about Valve, and use them hesitantly, while laughing at everything else.
It's not being a monopoly that is illegal — if it were then all of "big tech" would be screwed. It's using a monopoly toward anti-competitive ends and enshittifying everything that is illegal...which is funny, because even that really doesn't seem to be illegal when you look around these days.
It's still a monopoly though. The misconception is that calling Valve a monopoly, is somehow an attack on Valve or blames Valve. It's just a description of Valve's position in the market.
Also, shame on whoever thinks Valve won't ever abuse this position at some point in the future.
Funny meme tho, just being pedantic
Will they? Probably. The thing is the others already did, and they even tried to hurt Valve in bad faith. The meme is good, but they take their shots at Valve before shooting themselves in their faces. I just hope GOG wakes the fuck up with Linux support, so I can buy more from them.
But it is still the best launcher on market all others are crap especially epic. And despite being dominating player it still didn't abuse this power, meanwhile you hear only bad things about other launchers, delisting your games, insane telemetry, lack of reviews etc.
I hate most of other launchers not because they are bad but because they are required for playing some games: rockstar etc.
Gog found good niche in DRM free games which is great.